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Subject: Re: UNIX left out in the cold?
From: "Thomas Michanek" <thomas.michanek@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 03:34:08 +0100
Reply-To: "Thomas Michanek" <thomas.michanek@xxxxxxxxx>
>From: Rick Quatro <email@example.com> > >UNIX is the most stable, professional, powerful and scriptable > >of all operating systems. [...] >With due respect, I take issue with your blanket statement in the >first sentence above. I know that was a bit provocative. Hopefully, this doesn't completely undermine the serious intent of my message. >Your statement may be true about UNIX overall, but it doesn't >factor in each production environment and the tasks at hand. [...] >Because of FrameScript, the NT environment is more "powerful and >scriptable" for me. You're right, but I was only talking about the OS itself. IMHO, UNIX in itself is more "scriptable", in particular compared to Windows. FrameScript is a non-OS, non-Adobe product than can be ported; it wasn't available for Mac at first either. >UNIX Frame has fmbatch, but Macintosh has AppleScript and FrameScript, >which give you more access to FrameMaker than fmbatch. Windows has >FrameScript and a slew of inexpensive macro programs to automate >FrameMaker tasks. The fact that there are so many software choices >for a platform really helps when your production tasks are varied. First of all, UNIX FM has built-in macros to automate tasks. Otherwise you're right, but at the same time the many free text-processing tools on UNIX make it possible, if not easy, to do virtually anything you can think of (see my MIF scripts :-) You don't depend on or need to buy other tools just to be able to do batch processing, which is the key to "single-button" work flow solutions. (As an example, in my previous position, I had a single UNIX script that copied the latest changed FM files, imported settings to all files, built the book, run a complete format report, converted all files to HTML, and performed a link check on the HTML files, all this automatically in the background. Try to do that on Windows or Mac with only the OS and standard FrameMaker.) In general, UNIX users seem to be more inclined to making their own little utilities, instead of buying pre-made software. To some extent this is *because* there is a lack of software, but scripting tools are also readily available in UNIX. >Adobe is a company that wants to be profitable. It will not be compelled >to support an OS just because it exists. It does not even matter if the >OS is better (or the best)! Mark said it best: [...] Mark's comments may well make sense in the traditional computer business. I still think that a somewhat different approach is needed for Linux. It's also perfectly possible for a vendor to make a deliberate choice of policy that won't make "business sense" at first, but that will pay off in the end. I wonder if PDF (or PageMaker on Mac in 1986) would have been a reality if Adobe just had sat and waited for the "market" to demand it? I don't think Adobe knew whether or not it would pay off when they created it. In my possibly simple-minded opinion, vendors could make promises or in other ways show interest in supporting certain platforms or products, to actually influence their customers' future choice of products, thereby securing their investments and company good-will, instead of simply sit and watch a market "die". Customers often make "silent" choices depending on what's available, instead of actively making their needs and wishes known to vendors' marketing departments. >Your concern about FrameMaker/Acrobat integration is valid, but again, >how important is this integration to you and your workflow? >Is it more important than your OS? This reasoning assumes you have a choice. To use your own words ("make your business dependent on your customers"), what if you're working for a UNIX-only customer? Similarly, would it be a good business practice for Adobe to tell their FM customers on UNIX that they better switch OS to be able to produce PDF? Wouldn't that be an example of both misleading marketing and ignoring customer needs? Thanks for this interesting discussion, - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Thomas Michanek, [Michagon], Linkoping, Sweden Documentation Consultant, FrameMaker/UNIX expert EMAIL: mailto:Thomas.Michanek@telia.com WWW: http://go.to/framers , or go directly to: http://w1.133.telia.com/~u13304072/framers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Subscribe to the "free framers" list: send an email to firstname.lastname@example.org with "subscribe framers" in the body ** To unsubscribe, send a message to email@example.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **