Re: Is this a typical Frame/NT bug?

[Michael Richards <michaelr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

We use the following at our site:

Samba,
Citrix MetaFrame 1.8 (as I recall)
Solaris 2.x (though the majority are 2.5.1)
Frame 5.5.3/6 (Mainly Solaris with workers using Mac, NT and Win95/8 at home)
RCS for document cold storage (though modified with localized scripts)

We have found that MetaFrame has problems with file rights. We presume that this
is a Samba issue, and our Head of Tech Support has been solving problem after
problem incrementally (because he is a genius).

My (limited) experience with RCS tells me that rights are paramount. You have to
be a member of the the correct group or you get the very messages Ed lists.

I cannot provide an out-of-the-box solution for Ed's problems except to say that
he may have to check in docs from UNIX. Hopefully he can open a shell on his NT
machine and make sure that he is currently in the correct group (using "newgrp
foo" and the like before invoking RSC). 

As you can tell from the above list, I work in UNIX and use MetaFrame to provide
me an NT Window in which I can partake of the rich experience of using a Bill
Operating system. Needless to say, I close this window at the first opportunity
so as to get back to sanity.

Hope these musings help.

Jay Smith wrote:
> 
> Ed,
> 
> We use Samba on Linux to connect to Win95 PCs running FM556.
> 
> What you describe sounds like a Samba issue, not an FM issue.  But I am
> not so sure.
> 
> How long have you been using the Samba?  Do you edit documents on other
> WinNT apps such as publishing packages or word processors in this
> manner.
> 
> There could be an issue here with the Samba setup/settings and the
> particular way in which FM is trying to lock files, etc.  By comparison,
> right after we switched to using Samba, *everything* was working great
> except for WordPerfect8 on the Win95 PCs.  It turned out that because of
> the way that WordPerfect was doing things and the way our TCP/IP stacks
> (FTP Software) were (or were not) working, we had to turn off OpLocks
> (opportunistic locking) in Samba to get WP wo work properly.  (Despite
> the warnings in the Samba docs that turning off the OpLocks would
> degrade performance, we could not detect any degradation.)
> 
> So... I may just be full of hot air.  However, I suggest you talk with
> your Samba guru and see what the experimentation possibilities are.
> 
> I really doubt that this is purely an FM issue.
> 
> Jay
> 
> Ed Treijs wrote:
> >
> > Hi;
> >
> > After using FrameMaker (and, once upon a time, FrameBuilder) on UNIX with
> > no problems, we recently switched to 5.5.6 on NT.
> >
> > Today, I went to save a document.  Our documents are still on UNIX, so I go
> > through Samba to the UNIX directory.  We use RCS, and I had the doc locked.
> >
> > Doc didn't save.  I didn't really take in the first message, except that it
> > didn't seem to be referring to my doc (rwhtables.fm).  Try again...."File
> > has changed since you last opened it.  Save anyway?"  (Yes.)  "Can't write
> > file rwhtables.fm.AC2 to disk."  Tried this a few times, getting random
> > extensions added to the filename.
> >
> > Then, I was told, "Document was locked by User: 0, Date: Dec 31, 1969.
> > Save anyway?"  Huh?  Yeah, save.  After a few tries, it saved.  I tried
> > saving a backup version under a different name, too.
> >
> > Alas, when I try to open the doc (either version) I'm told it's corrupt,
> > and that I should check the disk/network, and/or open a backup file.
> >
> > I've heard that Frame is less stable on NT; is this a typical problem?
> > Sounds like something Word would do.  =8^0
> >
> > Ed (running full-screen eXceed, damnit) Treijs
> >
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