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Re: Censorship alive and well on frameusers

I'm sure you're right Fred; I just didn't realize you were so tight
with the admins that you could read their minds.

Those messages I received that indicated otherwise were undoubedly
clever forgeries.
Silly me.


On 11/22/05, Fred Ridder <docudoc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> You must be using a different definition of "moderated" than anyone
> else uses. Except for the first posting when joining the Techwr-l
> list, list members' submissions are posted directly to the list. There is
> no moderator--not Lisa and not anybody else--who has the power
> and responsibility to accept or reject every message before posting.
> According to every definition of "moderated list" that I've ever
> seen (and I just looked at nearly a dozen definitions found by Google,
> including several on the websites of listserv software vendors), that
> describes an unmoderated list.
> >From: Art Campbell <art.campbell@xxxxxxxxx>
> >To: Fred Ridder <docudoc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >CC: framers@xxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: Censorship alive and well on frameusers
> >Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:47:12 -0500
> >
> >Well, that hasn't been anywhere close to my experience on that list, Fred.
> >I think we can agree to disagree.
> >
> >On 11/22/05, Fred Ridder <docudoc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Sorry, Art, but you are incorrect about the Techwr-l list being
> > > "tightly moderated". It is an unmoderated list. Lisa does monitor
> > > the list fairly closely (as did the previous list administrators)
> > > because it has a long history of quickly veering deeply (and
> > > often passionately) off-topic, but what she does is after-the-fact
> > > monitoring rather than before-the-fact moderation.
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Art Campbell                                             art.campbell@xxxxxxxxx
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