Re: Censorship alive and well on frameusers

["Fred Ridder" <docudoc@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

No mind reading involved. I'm only repeating what has been
stated on that list by the admin (past and present) on any
number of occasions. And the following is directly quoted
from the "About Techwr-l" page of the Techwr-l.com website:
"TECHWR-L is an unmoderated discussion forum for technical
communication topics."

So I guess we just have to tkae your word for it that they
are liars...


> From: Art Campbell <art.campbell@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Fred Ridder <docudoc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> CC: framers@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Censorship alive and well on frameusers
> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:10:31 -0500
>
> I'm sure you're right Fred; I just didn't realize you were so tight
> with the admins that you could read their minds.
>
> Those messages I received that indicated otherwise were undoubedly
> clever forgeries.
> Silly me.
>
> Cheers,
> Art
>
>
> On 11/22/05, Fred Ridder <docudoc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > You must be using a different definition of "moderated" than anyone
> > else uses. Except for the first posting when joining the Techwr-l
> > list, list members' submissions are posted directly to the list. There 
> is
> > no moderator--not Lisa and not anybody else--who has the power
> > and responsibility to accept or reject every message before posting.
> > According to every definition of "moderated list" that I've ever
> > seen (and I just looked at nearly a dozen definitions found by Google,
> > including several on the websites of listserv software vendors), that
> > describes an unmoderated list.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Art Campbell <art.campbell@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: Fred Ridder <docudoc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >CC: framers@xxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: Re: Censorship alive and well on frameusers
> > >Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:47:12 -0500
> > >
> > >Well, that hasn't been anywhere close to my experience on that list, 
> Fred.
> > >I think we can agree to disagree.
> > >
> > >On 11/22/05, Fred Ridder <docudoc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > Sorry, Art, but you are incorrect about the Techwr-l list being
> > > > "tightly moderated". It is an unmoderated list. Lisa does monitor
> > > > the list fairly closely (as did the previous list administrators)
> > > > because it has a long history of quickly veering deeply (and
> > > > often passionately) off-topic, but what she does is after-the-fact
> > > > monitoring rather than before-the-fact moderation.
> >
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> Art Campbell                                             
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