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Re: Censorship alive and well on frameusers

You must be using a different definition of "moderated" than anyone
else uses. Except for the first posting when joining the Techwr-l
list, list members' submissions are posted directly to the list. There is
no moderator--not Lisa and not anybody else--who has the power
and responsibility to accept or reject every message before posting.
According to every definition of "moderated list" that I've ever
seen (and I just looked at nearly a dozen definitions found by Google,
including several on the websites of listserv software vendors), that
describes an unmoderated list.

From: Art Campbell <art.campbell@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Fred Ridder <docudoc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
CC: framers@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Censorship alive and well on frameusers
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:47:12 -0500

Well, that hasn't been anywhere close to my experience on that list, Fred.
I think we can agree to disagree.

On 11/22/05, Fred Ridder <docudoc@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Sorry, Art, but you are incorrect about the Techwr-l list being
> "tightly moderated". It is an unmoderated list. Lisa does monitor
> the list fairly closely (as did the previous list administrators)
> because it has a long history of quickly veering deeply (and
> often passionately) off-topic, but what she does is after-the-fact
> monitoring rather than before-the-fact moderation.

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