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To: "Hays Dennis " <KK7777@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Help!: Update Frame for Mac OSX; We Need Your Votes!
From: "Dov Isaacs" <isaacs@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:04:25 -0700
Cc: framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, framers@xxxxxxxxx
In-Reply-To: <F149877366A63B4ABEEDB3658AD4DCA83C11FA@sdss4.dfa.state.ny.us>
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
The author of those articles clearly does not understand technically what is going on underneath the "covers" of MacOS X. By claiming that MacOS X and Quartz are built on "Adobe technology" he demonstrates that lack of knowledge. Quartz is not built on "Adobe Technology" ... the NeXT OS had Display PostScript, a product that no longer really exists. Quartz is built upon Apple's own implementation of a PDF interpretation and creation system. The author also seems to be upset that Adobe just wouldn't get into all the hype over MacOS X. In fact, Adobe has been as open as it could be (legally and practically) in terms of plans to carbonize applications: (1) We prefer not to make date commitments for carbonized versions. We don't "preannounce" products more than at most a few months before we have the highest confidence that they will actually ship. Carbonization is just one feature of "next versions" of many of our products. As it is, we have given as much or more information about the carbonization as we have done for any other feature of Adobe products. Note that we have publicly demonstrated technology going into a future version of InDesign and that demonstration did indeed showcase operation under MacOS X. We couldn't demonstrate some of the features of the product simply because those aspects of MacOS X are still in definition by Adobe and Apple, together, and pending implementation by Apple. MacOS X is not really "done" yet. (2) Adobe is fully committed to achieving as much cross-platform interoperability as possible, subject of course to OS and/or development tool limitations. We understand the enthusiasm that Mac users have over the "new start" that MacOS X brings to the platform. We have high hopes for it over time. However, we are not going to discontinue development of and/or cripple functionality of our Windows versions of our products just to make MacOS X look good or make Mac users feel better. Nor are we, contrary to the beliefs of some Mac users, in some conspiracy against Apple in cahoots with "the dark side" as they tend to refer to Microsoft. Remember that the press makes its mark by reporting on controversy, either real or synthesized. In this case, it is synthesized. It is clearly in Adobe's best business interests to have carbonized versions of its applications available as soon as possible. That availability, however, will be in conjunction with our regular product development and release process and will not be done before we can assure that our customers will have software that provide WORKING solutions, not just hype. - Dov At 6/28/2001 08:56 AM, Hays, Dennis wrote: >Here's a background article (same author over two different days): > ><http://cma.zdnet.com/texis/techinfobase/techinfobase/+KJ__e3y5wzmwwwhqFqr+sssX6WmzmwwwwnzmwwwwpFqrp1xmwBnLFqnhw5B/display.html> > ><http://cma.zdnet.com/texis/techinfobase/techinfobase/+ZJ__e3y5wzmwwwhqFqr+ssK+K6mzmwwwwnzmwwwwpFqrp1xmwBnLFqnhw5B/display.html> > > >Jason, > >The bottom line, quite simply, is that WE ALREADY KNOW that >most Mac users, including Adobe's internal FrameMaker users >on the Mac, want a MacOS X "native" version of FrameMaker ASAP. >(FYI, almost all the output of our "User Education" department >at Adobe including most manuals, books, and help files associated >with our products is done with FrameMaker and a major percentage >of that is done on Macs!) We already have that input. OK? > > - Dov ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **