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To: Lisa Bronson <lisa.infocus@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Your message to Framers awaits moderator approval
From: "Jeremy H. Griffith" <jeremy@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:23:43 -0800
Cc: framers@xxxxxxxxx, framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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In-reply-to: <mailman.68.1132629112.4905.framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Organization: Omni Systems, Inc.
References: <mailman.68.1132629112.4905.framers@lists.frameusers.com>
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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:11:52 -0700, framers-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >Your mail to 'Framers' with the subject > > Re: Censorship alive and well on frameusers > >Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > >The reason it is being held: > > Post to moderated list > >Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive >notification of the moderator's decision. Hi Lisa. You are moderating framers now? IMHO, bad move. At the very best, moderation destroys the spontaneity of a list. The only time to use it is when you get a mail loop going and need to stop it... and there are better ways to do that, too. When people ask questions and the posts are held up for hours, or the answers are held up, until a moderator can attend to them and repost to the list, the mutual-support function of the list is damaged. Censorship does not work, just like Hedley said. There are readily-available countermeasures to it. (Free Framers itself is only one of them.) It's one thing to stop a flame war; it's quite something else to censor perfectly reasonable comments about list operations that you happen to disagree with. Please reconsider this step. Thanks. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, Free Framers list admin <framers-owner@xxxxxxxxx> ** To subscribe to Free Framers, email the message ** ** body "subscribe framers" to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx ** ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **