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To: <framers@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: FM and InDesign
From: Ephemeral <ephemera1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 15:15:01 -0800
Delivered-To: jeremyg-freeframers:org-ffarchiv@freeframers.org
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I am a relative novice on FM -- haven't gone very deep yet, but manage reasonably well. I am working on a large project, and the Word/InDesign combo is not up to the task. I've been on the Adobe FM forum recently, and note FM's uncertain future, and I hesitate to make the effort to gain facility with a dying program. I'd prefer to find a program I can work in now, even if it isn't perfect, but which seems to be evolving in the right direction for the future. I am a power-user on Word (like some of it, dislike a lot of it), and have moderate facility with InDesign (like it a lot). I work on a G4 in OS-X/Jaguar (and will probably move to Panther). I started out on a PC waaay back in DOS, know Windows, made "the switch" to Mac and never looked back, so if FM only continues to evolve in the MS world, I think I'd still be looking for an alternative. Caveat: patchy knowledge on display. My first hope was that Adobe would gradually turn ID into the new FM. However, I've seen posts that express a lot of pessimism -- FMs old code, sent off to India to die, ID not up to it, the programs are too different, program bloat, etc., etc. Isn't it a reasonable guess that instead of packing more stuff directly into ID, Adobe is developing it by adding capacity to work with other programs in their line and by recommending third-party plug-ins? Wouldn't this prevent code bloat? Also, some reliance on third-party plug-ins keeps things pretty dynamic. Wouldn't that be a good way to develop ID faster than Adobe could do on its own? And don't the majors swallow the minors if they prove successful? Ruthless, but effective. Yes, I know a modular approach can be expensive for the consumer, but in a way it allows flexibility -- it has a certain appeal to buy only those components you really need. I'd rather add new modules as my needs change rather than pay big bucks for a huge program packed with stuff I don't need -- and then watch parts of it I do use fall behind while I wait for an upgrade. (Actually, I've long thought it would be nifty to rent time on a Web-site based program when I need a tool I rarely use. I asked an Adobe-ite about this once and her eyes twinkled. She smiled and said, "Big topic of conversation for the future.") Adobe suggests third-party software for InDesign that will do a wide variety of things, including index, TOC, footnote/endnote, etc., all things I need. Is anyone here familiar with any of these? Recommendations? What about InCopy -- has anyone tried it? Without a trial download, I have no idea if it will do what I need and is worth the $250. Could that become the text editor that would give Word some real competition? Am I correct that InDesignCS and InCopy will work on a G5, but don't work on Panther? Huh? And further afield -- what is with Nisus? They are working to bring an older OS-9 program into OS-X. I have never worked in Nisus Writer, but I downloaded a trial and it looks like it was pretty robust. Are they trying to make it into a modern version of FM; if so, are they likely to succeed? It has a certain appeal to buy an inexpensive new product under active development and then ride with the upgrades. J PS: I may fish two streams at once and pose some of these questions on the Adobe forum -- for those of you who visit there as well, sorry for the overlap. ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **