Re: More on the reports I am working on

[chawtrey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Charles Hawtrey)]

Another one we've found here with trying to align columns (to mimic 
80-column screen output) is you get this effect if you have some lines 
ending with a regular Return and others with a Shift+Return. 
Shift+Return gives better results, but you get stuck of course with an 
empty line at the end.

This happens with Courier even when the Paragraph Designer is set to 
Kerning off, 0% Spread, 100% Stretch, and Word Spacing minimum, maximum 
and optimum all at 100%, i.e. when it looks as if it all should behave 
like an 80-column printer. Hard spaces help a bit.

I've seen that since FrameMaker 4, and it's still there in 7.0 p576. 
(Dov - could you lean on somebody here?)

Charles Hawtrey
Schlumberger, Abingdon, UK

Dov Isaacs wrote:

>Sharon,
>
>Another idea since it does appear that you see the problem in
>print as well as on the screen:
>
>In the regions of the document in which you have your numeric
>tabular data, globally replace the regular spaces with what
>FrameMaker calls a "numeric space" (otherwise referred to in the
>biz as a "figure space"). It may be keyed via "Esc space 1 (one)".
>Another alternative is the non-breaking space keyed via "CTRL space".
>These special space characters may force FrameMaker into proper
>spacing behaviour.
>
>        - Dov
>
>
>
>At 12/4/2002 05:25 PM, Dov Isaacs wrote:
>  
>
>>Sharon,
>>
>>This sounds so familiar. I am trying to remember what I once did to
>>fix something like this.
>>
>>Some ideas to try in the following order:
>>
>>(1) Are you sure that it prints with improper alignment as opposed to
>>just displaying with improper alignment? If it prints OK, either just
>>ignore the screen display or you might want to look at your setting for 
>>"DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics" in the maker.ini file if you have this 
>>setting defined at all (no it isn't documented in the FM).
>>If Yes, change to No. If No, change to Yes. If it isn't defined in your
>>maker.ini file, try each value in succession and see if one or the other
>>fixes the problem.
>>
>>(2) Turn OFF pair kerning for the Paragraph Style in which you are
>>using Courier and columns of numbers. Theoretically, this "shouldn't"
>>make a difference since Courier supposedly doesn't have any pair
>>kerning data defined.
>>
>>(3) Alignment for the Paragraph Style in question should be "Left"
>>or else attempts to justify text will vary the spacing between words.
>>
>>       - Dov
>>    
>>
>
>*
>
>  
>
>>At 12/4/2002 04:50 PM, Sharon Burton-Hardin wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>These financial reports are text from Word. The letters, numbers, etc are
>>>all aligned using the space bar. (I didn't do this and the budget does not
>>>allow for redoing the reports as other things, like screen captures or
>>>putting the text in tables).
>>>
>>>They come into Frame OK, but sometimes the columns of numbers do not align
>>>on the decimal. They seem to be a half space off. The decimal on one line is
>>>right above the space between .0 on the line below it. It does this both in
>>>print and on screen so it is real.
>>>
>>>Courier 6 point font, no kerning, no additional spacing, very vanilla.
>>>
>>>The alignment is very important to the client as the training from this
>>>manual focuses on the reports examples. This is high visibility and the
>>>decimals need to align.
>>>
>>>Any ideas? I can change to other couriers if that will help.
>>>
>>>sharon
>>>
>>>Sharon Burton-Hardin
>>>CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting
>>>909-369-8590
>>>www.anthrobytes.com
>>>      
>>>
>
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