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[Dov Isaacs <isaacs@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hedley,

Hopefully, you won't mind my posting my response to the full lists ...

I will answer your last question, first. I have multiple systems that include
Windows 2000 ("Pro" for a notebook system and "Server" for my desktop systems)
and MacOS 9.1. I expect to have a new Mac running MacOS 10.x sometime in the
next few months. My "main" system is the desktop PC running Windows 2000 Server.
The reasons are very simple. With one exception, there are no applications that
I use of a regular or even occasional basis that run with more functionality
on a Mac (the exception is FrameMaker only with regards to CMYK output). And
with no exceptions, none of these applications run nearly as reliably under
MacOS 9.x as they do under Windows 2000. I am hoping that with MacOS X, this
situation won't be so lopsided and that "think different" won't continue to be
"think incompatible."

No, just for the record, I was not making any jokes about the need to do
the "clean install" for "upgrading" a PC from Windows'9x/Me to Windows 2000
or XP. I hardly look at that as a real feature of any type, although for many
users, it is indeed an opportunity to properly reorganize and streamline a
computer system cluttered with years of program installations, updates, 
uninstalls, and the "doggy droppings" of old, obsolete modules left behind in
system directories and elsewhere, not properly removed when software is updated
or uninstalled.

Lest you think that Macintosh users are immune to this type of problem, you
are seriously deluding yourself if you believe that you can simply update
a MacOS 9.x system by creating a new system folder and dumping the old one.
The days in which application programs simply put all their programs into a
single, easily identifiable, independent folder outside the system folder are
regrettably long past. Even Macintosh-based applications create not only
their own application program directories, but their installers most often now
put executables and required data files that are not simply recreated via 
deletion (such as the infamous preferences files in the preferences subfolder)
into various subfolders of the Mac's system folder. The days of simple 
Dragon-Drop for application installation and movement on a Mac are long gone
for recent versions of most applications.

And with MacOS X is even more convoluted this way. Makes the "computernerdishkeit"
of Windows and Eunuchs look trivial ...

So please quit the self-righteous gloating. NO current OS version is particularly
easy to install, update, and maintain ...

        (8^)>

        - Dov


At 2/17/2002 03:06 PM, hedley_finger@myob.com.au wrote:

>Gee, Dov:
>
>For a minute there, I thought you said ...
>
>> You must do a "clean
>> install" which implies that you backup your data, delete the
>> existing partitions containing the operating system and
>> application programs, and then do a installation of the
>> operating system and applications on a newly formatted
>> partition.
>
>Ha, ha, ha!  So, you old joker you, basically you are trying to get me
>to reinstall the lebenty zillion major office and publishing applications,
>utilities, and shareware/freeware executables on my hard disk.
>
>Like, man, if I thought for a minute you weren't funning, that could be a week's
>work trying to get everything -- preferences and all -- back the way they were.
>
>Now, on my Macintosh at home, it is wise to do a clean installation of ONLY the
>System folder.  All the applications can remain as they are.  And there are some
>dinky utilities such as Install Assistant and Conflict Catcher that let you compare
>the new and old System folders and port across those extensions, etc. that you
>really need in the clean System folder.
>
>So, tell me, what is the main machine you use at Adobe, Windows, Mac OS 9
>or Mac OSX 10.x?
>
>Regards,
>Hedley
>
>Copyright (C) MYOB Limited 2002
>
>--
>Hedley Finger
>Technical Communications/Technical communicator and FrameMaker mentor
>MYOB Australia <http://www.myob.com.au/>
>P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
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