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Subject: Re: Adobe FrameMaker End-of-Life for Macintosh Platform
From: "Darryl L. Starr" <dstarr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:11:02 -0500
Cc: isaacs@xxxxxxxxx, framers@xxxxxxxxx
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Debbi: I whole heartedly agree with you that Dov has been a life saver to me on many occasions and I could not have done some of the things I needed to do without him. I will say though, that from time to time he can be a little short, but that is understandable with some of the junk he has to read from some of the respondents on this list. I would be short too! Darryl Starr Debbi Fortney Correia wrote: > I'm sure there will be a bunch of "me too" messages on this one! Dov is > one of the most significant contributors to this list, and has been a > tremendous resource for many of us. His assistance goes far beyond > anything we could get from Adobe technical support, and we certainly get > answers more quickly! I have an email filter for his messages -- they go > directly into a folder with his name, and I've forwarded a number of his > posts to people on this list over the past several years. Thanks Dov for > your years of dedication!! > > In my opinion, Denise Salles doesn't know what she's talking about. > > Deb > > > Denise, > > > > Thank you for your feedback. > > > > You are certainly entitled to your opinion vis-a-vis my style and > > motivation. Other recipients and contributors to this list may or > > may not share those opinions. > > > > In terms of the particular message you cite, I was simply stating the > > technical facts to counter a number of messages on this list > > by well-meaning > > contributors. These messages have taken some terrible leaps of faith > > regarding what could have or should be done for a "quick fix" > > for FrameMaker > > on the Macintosh, more specifically MacOS X, on the basis of > > their buying > > into popular hype vis-a-vis OS similarities and portability issues. > > > > Unlike some contributors to this list over the last week, I have not > > questioned anyone's motives, intelligence, etc. Nor have I tried to > > convince anyone that last week's announcement was good and wonderful. > > My style is terse. I am not a "suit" or a PR wonk, just a > > dumb engineer > > here at Adobe (and not even part of the FrameMaker > > organization) trying to > > supply technical answers to what are usually print workflow and system > > configuration issues. The terseness is a direct reaction to > > (a) needing to > > keep the messages as short and sweet as possible and (b) > > wanting to avoid > > editorializing as much as possible. With 300 to 600 incoming > > emails a day > > (after the spam filters), I really don't have time to craft > > namby-pamby > > responses to make everyone feel good. This isn't "USA Today" or > > "People Magazine." > > > > May I humbly suggest that if you really dislike my contributions to > > this list that much and find them to be of no use to you, you > > simply set > > your email filters to automatically discard all email with > > isaacs@xxxxxxxxx > > in them. > > > > - Dov > > > > > > At 3/30/2004 10:34 AM, Denise Salles wrote: > > >Dov, > > > > > >In my opinion your messages are, as a general rule, > > contemptuous and condescending. Come down from the bell tower > > if you truly want open communication with others. > > > > > >Denise > > ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx ** > ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. ** ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **