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To: framers@xxxxxxxxx, framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Adobe FrameMaker End-of-Life for Macintosh Platform
From: Larry.Kollar@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:07:35 -0500
Delivered-to: jeremyg-freeframers:org-ffarchiv@freeframers.org
In-reply-to: <6.0.3.0.2.20040330105121.029cc380@mailsj.corp.adobe.com>
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Sheesh... Dov, I hope you don't mind me elaborating here. I only get 100 messages/day after the spam. :-) > ... I was simply stating the > technical facts to counter a number of messages on this list by well-meaning > contributors. These messages have taken some terrible leaps of faith > regarding what could have or should be done for a "quick fix" for FrameMaker > on the Macintosh, more specifically MacOS X. I *think* the original idea was to port the Unix version of Frame to run under OSX's X11. Even as an outsider (vis. Adobe), and someone who would consider Frame-under-X11 a better choice than no Frame at all, I'd have to agree with Dov on that one. I've fiddled with several open source projects, and it's not always a simple matter of compiling. Look at OpenOffice, for example -- version 1.1.1 runs on Linux/X11 just fine, but the developers are *still* having problems getting past 1.0.3 on MacOSX/X11. Any large project (especially one with a GUI) is going to have issues like that. And just because it compiles & runs doesn't mean that it works. There can be subtle bugs that have to be discovered and fixed, and those are often the hardest kind to fix. > Unlike some contributors to this list over the last week, I have not > questioned anyone's motives, intelligence, etc. Nor have I tried to > convince anyone that last week's announcement was good and wonderful. True. I want to think I've done the same, outside of one attempt at humor that flopped.... So Dov & I have butted heads a couple of times in the past, that doesn't mean I don't respect and appreciate his input and contribution to the list (and the beverage-on-me offer still stands, Dov). > My style is terse. I am not a "suit" or a PR wonk, just a dumb engineer > here at Adobe (and not even part of the FrameMaker organization) trying to > supply technical answers to what are usually print workflow and system > configuration issues. Um, isn't "dumb engineer" an oxymoron? The old definition "unable to speak" certainly doesn't fit either. And I'd rather have an engineer than a suit answering questions on this list any day. That's my 2 cents. -- Larry Kollar, Senior Technical Writer, ARRIS "Content creators are the engine that drives value in the information life cycle." -- Barry Schaeffer, on XML-Doc ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **