Re: (Another) Frame bug not fixed in 6.0 -- Tables: the Phantom Font Menace

["Donald F. Pratt" <dpratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

OK. I see it now.
The fonts used when any given table instance was created
stay, uselessly, in its own little copy of the original table-format definition
EVEN IF YOU CHANGE ALL THE FONTS IN THAT INSTANCE AND USE
THAT INSTANCE TO UPDATE THE FORMAT DEFINITION.
Hey Adobe, that's no feature, THAT'S A BUG!!!

But I still wouldn't fix the problem in MIF.
I'd create a new table
(after updating the stored format definition),
paste all the contents of the original table into the new one,
and delete the original table.
I admit I wouldn't be any happier than Ananda about having to do this,
but at least I wouldn't risk having to figure out what I mistakenly deleted
or mistakenly didn't delete in the MIF.

Don

> Well, I've had the same problem as Ananda, and I can assure you that
> once you got this problem, no Update All in the world will help...
> One problem is that table *instances* (not formats) can have para
> definitions stored for the table's default para formats that contain
> overrides compared to the definitions stored in the table format.
> Once you got those kind of overrides, they cannot be eliminated.
> You may have a situation where the Update All *will* help, but there
> are cases when it won't. Really.
>
> You either have to edit MIF, or turn off "Remember missing font names"
> and accept all font substitutions (if the problem is with the fonts).
> I reported this bug to Adobe in 1996, after careful investigations,
> and it wasn't fixed in FM 5.5.6.

> > When you're done,
> > all paras stored for all table formats will have default font properties,
> > and those properties WON'T be stored in the table formats
> > (check the MIF and you'll see).
> > They will come back if you later change your para definitions --
> > whether this is bug or feature,
> > tables keep the exact para properites they were defined with.
> > They keep para properties for header, footer, and body rows,
> > and for as many columns as you had in the table you did Update All from.
> > But you can, at any time, redefine them all without going to the MIF.



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