RE: Anchored Frame, distance down from anchor

[Thomas Neuburger <thomasn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

Chiming in -- see the exchanges below for reference.

All of what Dan said is right, but I'd add this change to
his advice in point #3:

For Tables, yes, use an empty paragraph, below which hangs the
table itself. Tables are forced to hang below -- there's no
At Insertion Point option.

But for Figures, if you're willing to go to the trouble to create
a special paragraph to hold a graphic (I always do), then I'd
use At Insertion Point for the figure instead of the default,
and maintain Baseline Offset at 0 pt. (If you resize an anchored
frame by dragging from the bottom, you'll change Baseline Offset
and it will need to be reset.)

The logic:

Professional publications (mags, etc.) always control the space
around a figure element -- the space above the figure, the space
between the figure and the caption, and the space below the caption.
It just doesn't look "professional" to do otherwise. (Professional
looks may not matter in your pubs department, but if it does, this
is a solution.)

Why my method over Dan's? A small point -- the empty paragraph
above the figure means that a figure that starts a page is offset,
even if slightly, from the top of the column. At Insertion Point
corrects that.

Cheers,

Tom Neuburger

BTW, I always took "Nullius in Verba" to mean "Nothing in Writing",
a motto we violate daily. :)


Ages ago, Ananda Stevens wrote:

> >> You should never anchor an anchored frame or table to a paragraph
> >containing
> >> text.
> >
> ><*blink*>
> >Say what?
>...
> >Ananda

And half an age ago, Dan Emory replied:

>The exceptions, of course, are if the Anchored Frame option being used is At
>Insertion Point or Run Into Paragraph. But when you're using the Below
>Paragraph option, anchoring the anchored frame to a text paragraph prevents
>you from being able to control the space above/below the anchored frame. Also:
>
>1. There is always the danger that the anchoring point in a text paragraph
>is not at the end (e.g., if someone later types in text after the anchoring
>point).
>
>2. There is also the danger that, while deleting text from a paragraph, the
>anchored frame or table will allso get deleted.
>
>3. If the anchored frame or table is anchored to a text paragraph, and the
>anchored object causes a page overflow, it pulls all or part (depending on
>widow/orphan settings) of the anchoring text paragraph with it. If, on the
>other hand, you use a separate tag named Anchor (typically set to the
>minimum font size of 2 pts), the widow/orphan settings in the Anchor
>paragraph determine whether the paragraph above is pulled with the table or
>graphic to the next page.
>
>In summary, anchoring graphics and tables to an empty Anchor paragraph tag
>properties provides maximum control over the areas above and below the
>object, and also safeguards the object from inadvertent editing actions
>performed on text. I know of no disadvantage to using this approach.
>      ====================
>      | Nullius in Verba |
>      ====================


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