Re: Right/Left Page Management for Special Pages

[Jay Smith <jay@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Harvey,

As Dan has outlined, this business is obnoxious.  

If I remember correctly, your FM content is essentially a flow coming from a
proprietary data base environment.  In any case, since you are having to
massage everything coming through, you should be able to get very close to the
FrameScript solution that Rick Quatro has made.

I note in your question, however, that you are not so concerned with _pairs_
of pages, but of _individual_ pages.  Thus using Rick's solution might not be
what you want.

However, while *I* have not tried to do this with FrameScript myself, it would
seem to me that it would be reasonably possible to use FrameScript to cause
master page assignment for any one page, based on virtually any structural or
content element of/on a page.  There may be some tedious looping involved,
but, based on the other work I have done in FrameScript, it sounds doable.

If you do do it, I would very much like a copy of the script -- I will have
something needing it coming up soon.  :)

If you are not yet using FrameScript, you "should" be -- at least if you are
doing the kind of work you were planning on doing when we last communicated.

You might also want to subscribe to the FrameScript group:

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There is not much activity yet, but one has to start somewhere.

Jay

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Dan Emory wrote:
> 
> This is a major hole in FrameMaker funtionality (i.e., that it can't manage
> left/right master page pairs other than the default left/right pair). I
> believe Rick Quattro at
>         "Rick Quatro" <frameexpert@mindspring.com>
> has a FrameScript that will do the job, provided that:
>         a. Your master page naming conventions conform to the conventions
> required by the script.
>         b. The first paragraph tag on a page must be uniquely correlatable
> to a particular left/right page pair you want to use. If the first paragraph
> tag on a page does not correlate to a ltransition to a different master page
> pair, then the page would use the same master page pair as the previous
> page. Thus, if a page uses a non-default left/right master page pair, and
> the next page should revert back to the default left/right master page pair,
> a unique paragraph tag must be also be established for that case.
> 
> PublishRight had a product named MPager that used a special marker type
> rather than a paragraph tag to signify a transition to a different
> left/right master page pair. It also required conformance to a master page
> naming convention. However, I think the product was sold to another company
> (a UK company as I recall), which is now marketing it. I don't remember the
> name of that company.
> 
> As you can see, it gets kind of complicated, which probably explains why it
> has not yet been implemented in FrameMaker. if Adobe were to implement this
> added page management funtionality in the next FrameMaker release, the
> simplest implementation would be the one used in MPager (i.e., a special
> marker type denotes a transition to a different master page type). Such an
> implementation would still require conformance to an established master page
> naming convention of some sort, however.
> 
> Note that any such master page management capability should also include a
> capability to add a named blank left-hand master page when the last text
> page in a chapter or section is a right-hand page.
> =========================================================================
> At 11:32 AM 8/31/99 -0400, harvey_greenberg@standardandpoors.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >Is there a way to easily control application of rights and lefts for special
> >pages? The basic right and left within a template works fine. Where we have
> >special pages, though, and are not able to set them as always left or always
> >right we have to: 1) create right- and left-versions for each special page,
> and;
> >2)  manually go through the chapter after all the material is composed and fix
> >the rights that should be left and vice-versa.
> >
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