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To: "Framers2" <framers@xxxxxxxxx>, "Framers1" <Framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Billing Your Client for Adobe Bugs
From: "Rick Quatro" <frameexpert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:15:29 -0400
References: <199908180110.NAA25807@planet.ak.planet.gen.nz>
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
For me, the most difficult task I have as a business owner is giving people job estimates. If you quote a job based on how long it SHOULD take, there is no margin for unforeseen problems (Stephen's dilemma). If you quote it a little higher, your client might get "sticker shock" and go elsewhere. The safest way is to give the client an hourly rate, shifting the gamble to him instead of you. That is the silver lining of clients now trying to do their own work (as opposed to years ago when they had to use typesetters). They develop an appreciation for what it takes to get a job done. When they hire you and you run into a few problems, they tend to be more understanding because they know things aren't as simple as they appear. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 716 659-8267 frameexpert@mindspring.com FrameScript Information at http://www.mindspring.com/~frameexpert > Stephen, > > If you were a plumber and you ordered a new kind of tap fitting after quoting the customer for the > tap and your installation fee (based on a reasonable assumption, for the period it would take to > have the tap installed, from your previous experience). But when the tap arrives you find that there > is a washer missing -- and this discovery coming after four hours of trying to stop the new tap > leaking -- you are faced with the same dilemma. > > Of course you cannot charge the client, it was not their fault, even if it was not yours. But then > you will be the one who has to pay for the lesson. > > That's life. > > Alan > > On 17 Aug 99, at 19:03, Stephen Kingston wrote: > > > Need your advice. I spent entirely too long trying to do some routine work > > in frame to PDF. Turns out it was a bug / glitch in the software. I > > figured out a work-around, after 4 hours. I figure it should have taken me > > about 1 hour in total. Question now is... do I bill my client for the full > > 4 hours, or just 1? (and chalk the other 3 up to 'learning about > > bugs...'). Unfortunately if I do bill the full 4, it puts me over my > > initial estimate by, well 3 hours! Any advice? (No, I can't charge Adobe.. > > wish I could!). ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **