Re: Build table or para up from bottom of the page?

[Dan Emory <danemory@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You don't need two text flows or a special text box to do this, nor do you
have to create any overrides to master pages or formats in the paragraph
catalog.

1. After the chapter name on the first page, insert an empty paragraph.

2. With the cursor in the empty paragraph created in Step 1, open the
Paragraph Designer, and set the Space Below to a value that is large enough
to cause the next paragraph to move to the top of the second page, where you
can want to begin the chapter text, and click the Apply button.
 
3. Then with the cursor still in the empty paragraph, choose Commands > New
Format in the Paragraph Designer to open the New Format dialog. In this
dialog, type in an appropriate unique name (let's call is Spacer), turn off
Store in Catalog, turn on Apply to Selection, and click the Create button.
Observe that the empty paragraph is now tagged with the Spacer name.

4. When you generate the TOC, copy it to the clipboard, and paste it BELOW
the empty Spacer paragraph described in steps 1-3.

5. Now, again put the cursor in the empty Spacer paragraph created in steps
1-3, and reduce the Space Below until all of the TOC appears on the first
page. When you change the Space Below setting, click the Apply button, NOT
the Update button, so as to keep the paragraph out of the paragraph catalog.

6. Since the Spacer paragraph tag was not added to the paragraph catalog in
step 3 or 4, it is not a format override to an existing paragraph tag in the
catalog, thus it will be unaffected if you import formats into the document
with Remove Format Overrides turned on. In other words, changes to the Space
Below property (or any other paragraph property for that matter) of the
Spacer paragraph does not constitute a format override to a paragraph in the
catalog.
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Note also that the use of a different type of spacer paragraph (this one is
included in the Paragraph Catalog) can be used to produce page or column
breaks anywhere in a document by setting the Space Below in that paragraph
tag to a value large enough to always force the next paragraph to appear at
the top of the next column or page.

When you want to produce a page or column break, you simply insert this
empty paragraph tag as the last paragraph in a page or text column. This
eliminates the need to apply a Page Break or Column Break override to other
paragraph formats that are included in the Paragraph catalog.

This approach also makes it easier to change the break point as the amount
of text expands or contracts. If you want to eliminate a page break, you
simply delete the empty spacer paragraph at the end of the page or column.
If you want to move a page or column break to another possition, you simply
cut and paste the empty spacer paragraph.
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At 03:49 PM 7/6/99 -0500, Jaye Barnett wrote:
>My client wants the first page of each chapter to have chapter number and
>name at the top of the page and then a chapter toc to appear at the bottom
>of the page. They would like to place the table on a baseline and have it
>grow up the page depending on the number of entries in the toc.
>
>So far
>On the Master Page (first)
>I have placed a text box at the top of the page with flow A to hold the
>chapter number and text. Then I placed a text box at the bottom of the page
>with flow B to hold the toc. The toc will have a minimum of 4 entries to a
>max of 12. The text box is sized to accomodate the 12 entries.
>
>On the Body Page
>I enter the text for the chapter name and press enter. This forces me to
>page two (flow A) to develop my chapter content. When I am ready to create
>the toc, I return to the first page and insert the "toc" table with the
>appropriate number of rows (between 4 and 12 plus header). I add
>cross-references to each heading that I want to include. After everything is
>entered I override the size of the text box so that it slides down the page
>to finally rest the bottom of the table along the baseline.
>
>The client can do this easily in QuarkXPress and Word with his marketing
>literature and newsletter. He wants to provide the same "look and feel" in
>his user guide.
>
>This system is tedious and places overrides in my document that I really
>don't want to have to support. Does anyone know of a better way to do this?
>
>
>
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