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To: "'framers@xxxxxxxxx'" <framers@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: re: Idea: Start of chapter with top of first line down the page
From: "Snavely, Deborah" <dsnavely@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:04:32 -0700
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
Jay, IMHO, an even simpler solution is to create a large blank frame on the reference page and attach it to the Chapter tag as a frame above paragraph. This has the advantage of minimizing tag names and preventing accidental deletion of the paragraph above. Either way, no call to feel stupid. FrameMaker takes some learning, up in the slick and tricky corners, and there's often more than one way to do anything! (That business about tying specific paratags or other tags to automatically apply appropriate master pages is one that Hedley Finger and Conrad Taylor have variously identified as a killer need; imagine that you insert a landscape format table and the appropriate left or right landscape page automagically substitutes itself...and pages adjust as the table moves with editing.) Of course, there may be some disadvantage to this method that I've never come across; Framers? Deborah Snavely Senior Technical Writer and part-time curmudgeon consulting at Visa standard disclaimers apply ******************************* Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:25:34 -0400 From: Jay Smith <jay@jaysmith.com> Subject: Idea: Start of chapter with top of first line down the page (FM 556 on Win95) <snip> Normally you want a chapter to start new on a right page. In my case, I also need the chapter heading to appear a couple inches down said page. Up to this point, we had used a first-page-in-chapter master page, but because tags cannot be tied to master pages (i.e. cause master pages to be used where the tag is located), it meant having each chapter in a separate file because that way the first page could easily use the first-page-in-chapter master page without causing any flow and master page assignment problems (as text is added and removed). That means having multiple files, a book, a template/master file, etc. A big pain. When you set a paragraph to be at the top of a right page, FM ignores any Space Above Paragraph setting, thus you can't push the chapter heading down. So... very simple solution (but why did it not occur to us earlier?): Above the chapter heading, add a "empty" paragraph tagged "chapter-head-above" and set IT to appear at the top of a right page and set Space Below to be what ever space you want. Then set "chapter-head" to appear Anywhere. It is so simple that I feel really stupid for not having used it before. <snip> ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **