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To: "Framers (E-mail)" <framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: It Stinks
From: Sarah Stegall <stegall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:49:41 -0800
CC: "Framers2 (E-mail)" <framers@xxxxxxxxx>
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
B. Mark Hilton wrote: > > Framers, > > Forgive me, but I had no idea that these groups had such conspiracy minded > participants. You're forgiven. My post re: Macworld reflected my own experience. It's not an attempt at rumor mongering, and certainly not an attempt to sabotage Adobe. I am a big fan of Frame, and would do just about anything to pull our company out from under the Microsoft megalith. But I must be honest about the difficulties we've had with Adobe's response, or lack of it, regarding FrameMaker. When I was hired here, my manager told me that she had had a devil of a time just *ordering* FrameMaker. She's a big fan of the product, and wants to move all our publishing onto Frame and away from Word. We're both committed to the idea. But it's hard to stay committed when it takes literally months to get a simple order for one copy of Frame fulfilled, when Adobe simply does not answer phone calls, and when there are very few third-party solutions out there (like "Framemaker for Dummies") to help us when we get stuck. Management takes a dim view of software which costs nearly three times what Word does, does not support Visio, requires us to PAY for an upgrade so we can import Word files, and lacks strong customer phone support (although this doesn't keep them from buying Microsoft products). > I gladly listen to any constructive comments on improving the product, > suggestions on improving the marketing of the product, and the raising of > concerns by the user community. Okay. Please support Visio technical drawing formats. They are the de facto standard in the telecommunications and networking industry for drawing technical illustrations and flowcharts. I have tried to get engineering departments to buy Illustrator for their tech illustrations, and find great resistance. EVERY TECHNOLOGY FIRM I HAVE WORKED FOR OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS USES VISIO. Period. If you guys don't support this network/drawing program and its associated drawing files, you're going to start losing Engineering departments wholesale. How hard could it be to write a filter for a Visio vector drawing image? Also, you need to support AutoCAD drawings better--often a schematic or a diagram will be plucked out of a CAD drawing for an illustration in a technical manual. What I do NOT find happening is engineers drawing illustrations or diagrams in Frame. They don't use Frame, by and large. However, all this constant resurrecting of > rumors of FrameMaker's demise only serves to fuel more concerns with > potential new users and slows FrameMaker developers from developing software > for your consumption. As you can guess this does not help the growth of the > FrameMaker customer base. Just in case you weren't clear on this point, its > the growth of the FrameMaker customer base that fuels investment in the > product. Well, we just bought Frame last year and plan to buy more licenses, but only as long as management is convinced that this product will be supported. Certainly we don't want to invest heavily in buying and training for Frame, only to find the rug jerked out from under us if Adobe fails to support it. It's a chicken-and-egg thing. I'm only alerting you to the fact that there's a trust problem with Adobe right now. It may not be your fault, and it's unfortunate, but there it is. As long as we're talking customer support, however, I'd like to end on an upbeat note. I have found the Adobe User Forum on FrameMaker to be very useful, not only for answering my own questions about the product but for alerting me to solutions I had not thought of, features I did not normally use, and techniques that had not occurred to me. Your experts in that forum have been first rate. It's a great example of tech support, which I have brought to my own manager's attention (we're officially in Tech Support ourselves) as a model for our own website. Your own presence here, reading this forum, is a very good sign as well: as long as you're listening to us here, I can forget what happened at MacWorld. Finally, I'd like put in a word of appreciation for Adobe's continuing to support not only Windows and Mac users, but UNIX users as well. At a software development house I worked at, Frame was the only program we had in common--even our email programs were different--and my communication with UNIX programmers on tech pubs issues was unhindered by document format incompatibilities. I sincerely hope Adobe reconsiders its decision to drop a FrameMaker forum from Adobe magazine. -- Sarah Stegall || Senior Technical Writer Terayon Communication Systems || stegall@terayon.com 2952 Bunker Hill Lane || voice 408-919-5893 Santa Clara, CA 95054 || fax 408-727-6204 ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **