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To: FrameUsers List <Framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Frame List <Framers@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: How would you use FM to make a "stamp album"
From: Jay Smith <jay@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:58:25 -0500
Organization: Jay Smith & Associates
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
(FM 556, Win95) Greetings, We have need to make a "stamp album". An arrangement of various sized boxes/squares (typically in rows or groups of rows), some of which contain images, along with various titles/text above, below, and inside the boxes/squares. This is normally thought of as a "PageMaker" or "Visio" type application. In fact, I have used both for it in the past; Visio is *extremely* productive (if you make a set of shapes for the purpose) with it's drag & drop shape and text frame locate, triple-click text editing, drag & select object selection, and possible numeric control of shape sizes. (Unfortunately, Visio's handling of EPS [non-vector] image files is TERRIBLE and their handling of TIFFs is extremely poor if the size is large. For reuse in many different applications we have standardized on EPS image files.) PageMaker is also very useful because of the 'floating toolbar' (or whatever it is) that allows for numeric size control of objects. All well and good, but none of those really allow or are good at **FLOWING**. A layout like a stamp album is not the kind of thing that you normally add objects to and reflow for the whole book/album. One usually redesigns a page or two (or adds a page) to put in a new item. In other words, a stamp album is a good use for Page Layout software. HOWEVER, the process of developing a completely new album is an exhausting process with constant reformatting & additions over a couple-year period -- thus constant REFLOWING. So, how would you approach this using FrameMaker? The thought of using FM is that it is great at FLOWING (if not the other aspects). - The "rows" of squares need to both stay intact as rows, or sometimes groups of rows, but flow over page breaks when new items are put in. - The text above and below any given row has to stay attached to it. - Page header text (dates) need to get picked up (and change) dictionary-style from INVISIBLE date values that accompany the individual squares or perhaps rows. However, what is really needed is the first date (lowest value) that appears anywhere on the page and the last date (highest value) that appears anywhere on the page. [This type of logic may not be possible in FM?] I have thought about using anchored frames with the various objects and text frames inside them. I have thought about using tables. While any of these methods can be made to work, my feeling is that each has its limitations and all are "stiff". Has anybody tried something like this? Lastly, I can see the writing on the wall that within a couple years we will be doing a number of these project with the initial data feed coming from a big relational/sql database. There will have to be subsequent tweaking (the process/data only moves in one direction, thank goodness -- otherwise Visio would be the ONLY option of which I am aware) of course, but how to do the database -> FM transfer? Write reporting out to MIF? How nasty is it to set up reporting to MIF format? (Note that I don't have to worry about paragraph tagging the text because we can report that out with para-tag-text-codes embedded in the para text and use FrameScript to do the tagging based on those codes and then delete the codes -- FS is handy!) What I am concerned about is the anchored frames, text frames, boxes/squares, aligning/centering, etc. Sounds like fun?? -- Jay Smith e-mail: jay@jaysmith.com The Press for History(tm), The Press for Education(tm), The Press for [Your Industry](tm), The Press for....(tm) On-demand printing and binding of hardbound books. Minimum run one copy. P.O. Box 650 Snow Camp, NC 27349 USA Phone: Int+US+336-376-9991 Toll-Free Phone in US & Canada: 1-800-447-8267 Fax: Int+US+336-376-6750 ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **