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RE: FrameMaker 2005 Chautauqua -- November 7-9, Raleigh NC USA



At 1:06 PM -0700 6/6/05, Martha J Davidson wrote:
It still has one of the most odd UI of any of the major applications I use on a daily basis

You know, I've been hearing people say this for years, and I still don't know what they mean. Maybe it's because I've been a Frame user since version 1.11b, in early 1986; I don't know. I use lots of other applications and I am really curious what people mean when they say that the Frame UI is "odd," or outdated.


Any takers?

You've got me. I feel the same way. I have several issues with bugs, missing features, and broken features in FrameMaker, but I have no issue with the UI. It's fine. The guts of the application and the solid behaviour is _THE_ most important thing.


I was at the Adobe booth in San Francisco at Macworld a few years back (the one time they had a postage stamp sized space with FrameMaker present) and some old fart walked up the Adobe person there and said "When are you going to modernize the FrameMaker user interface so it's like a normal application?" And I thought "What? There's nothing particularly unmodern about it now." So I asked the Adobe person if I could take this question and then I challenged the guy. I asked him if he wanted all of those annoying little Adobe pallets floating all over the place - ones you can't even read if you have your screen resolution set high. Turns out he wanted the UI to be more like Word! Eeeeegad! Needless to say I pissed on that idea in a hurry.

FrameMaker doesn't have to look like some spiffy new thing from Apple with inspectors and all manner of visually interesting candy crap. It's like the big muscle bound work horse you keep locked up in the barn till you need work done, but when you hitch the bugger up to the plough, you know it's going to get the job done. Maybe it's just the 12 years of using FrameMaker that has made me immune to such talk, but I just don't care about that. I want the stuff that FrameMaker has now - the robustness, the features, the predictability, the lack of annoyances. But most of all I want Adobe to wake up and stop treating FrameMaker like it was some kind of bastard child. Oh, and put it back on the best desktop OS on the planet, please.

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