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To: Larry Kollar <Larry.Kollar@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Dov's help, Shooting the messenger, Fruitless posts
From: TechComm Dood <techcommdood@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:43:54 -0500
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> Color me unconvinced that simple speculation was enough to precipitate > Dov's leaving the list. Anyone who didn't want to see the chatter could > filter on the subject line; Dov wasn't official so he wasn't required > to read everything posted here. When I "saw" him reading the list & > answering questions while nominally on vacation, I worried about him > burning out. The speculation has been going on for years, and I can't remember a week in the past year or so in which the question hasn't been brought up on this list. Sure he could filter it out, as I do, but my guess is that Dov's received more than his fair share of private e-mails about it as well. > Again, I'm unconvinced. My own attempts to take concerns directly > to Adobe were met with stock non-answers and parroting of the text > on the website. An Adobe-run list would have likely shut down a > "speculation" thread. So if an "independent user-oriented mailing > list" isn't the place to talk about the future of a product, then > I'm stumped for a more appropriate venue. Well, I doubt people in your lunchroom like to hear people whining about their car repairs or impending divorces either. Same scenario, only this is online. > A lot of the Mac-specific > chatter already moved to Paul Findon's list, BTW, and the threads > here & on FrameUsers were already showing signs of winding down & > would have been naught but background noise by next week. Possibly, but that's not an excuse to warrant the behavior, is it? > And, I would point out, a simple comment from Adobe PR -- "we have > shut down MacOS development for FrameMaker, but intend to continue > developing Windows and Solaris versions for the foreseeable future" > for example -- would have killed all speculation. There was a press release. To each their own though... ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **