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Subject: Comments on BibTex-FM tools
From: Fred Ma <fma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:39:28 -0400
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
Hello, Would anyone be able to comment on the candidate solutions that I've found to the problem of using a database for citation references? Suggestions for commmon practice and the alternative that would involve the least overhead and be the most flexible (if they are not competing priorities) would be appreciated. My problem: ----------- I'm finding it very precarious trying to rewrite a document and copying references and citations. The order in which the citations and references appear in the new document is not the same as in the old document. And the number of times a references is cited is not the same either. In fact, some references aren't even cited in the rewrite. It's quite messy and I can only rely on my own fallible reading to make sure that references aren't pasted twice in the new document. If I had BibTex, I can stick all the references in a database without worrying about the reference format. Then I can cite them wherever and whenever I want, and latex would compile a list of references of the appropriate format and desired ordering. Currently, I've put off the problem of ordering the references in FM. Potential solutions ------------------- Since I want to avoid ramping up on new stuff, and I'm familiar with BibTex, I avoid the following two tools mentioned in the comp.text.frame FAQ fmbib and EndNote Plus. All solution appearing at http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/framemaker/framemaker.html also seem to available at http://www.klariti.com/Framemaker-Filters.html Using BibTex database from FM: #1 According to comp.text.frame's FAQ, a tool to deal with BibTex-to-FM are BibFrame (once the Bibtex database is established). However, it seems to target FM5 (we've got FM6 here). #2 Another contender is CiteMaker, which is apparently more integrated with FM, and thus able to maintain WYSIWYG. #3 BibTex Translator for FM http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/framemaker/framemaker.html To get the BibTex database from FM, there seem to be many options. Since I just relied on my own typing to format the references in FM, I will likely have to clean up alot of the BibTex output no matter which converter I use. FM to BibTex database: #1 FremMaker to Bibtex http://ais.gmd.de/~wilberg/desktop/paper/bibConv/README.html There is a perl-looking script fm2bibLib.pl that seems to take an FM file saved a text file. #2 FrameMaker MIF to LaTeX Translator http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~kjt/software/framemaker/framemaker.html But, it only works on FM styles that use la_temp templates, which I never heard of before visiting this page (and thus did not use in writing up my 100 or so references). Thanks. Fred fma@doe.carleton.ca P.S. I've sent this to comp.text.frame, adobe.framemaker, and framers@omsys.com. -- Fred Ma, fma@doe.carleton.ca Carleton University, Dept. of Electronics 1125 Colonel By Drive, Ottawa, Ontario Canada, K1S 5B6 ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **