Re: Printing 2400DPI PDF on tabloid paper

[Dov Isaacs <isaacs@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thierry,

I'll answer the last question first. No, I know of no web page that
describes this problem, although a few years back I definitely recall
discussing this problem HERE!

I don't recall exactly where the bad code is, but somewhere "overflow"
of 32K is occurring. Perhaps Windows'9x/Me GDI is interpreting the
16 bit value as "unsigned" which would allow up to 64K before having
a problem as opposed to "signed" which blows at 32K. Push the resolution
setting to 4800 and you would be back with the same problem under
Windows'9x/Me. Ultimately, the problem is associated with how FrameMaker
communicates coordinates to Windows GDI. Newer applications "know better"
than to use device resolution dependent coordinates. Older applications,
and FrameMaker is NOT the only application with this anomaly, as well as
older versions of Windows which provided device resolution dependent
coordinate interface lived in a world of 300 and 600 dpi and smaller 
paper sizes. 20-20 hindsight is always SO good!

        - Dov


At 4/29/2003 04:55 PM, Thierry Lagueux wrote:

>Thanks Dov,
>
>But how come I can print correctly from 98 SE?
>
>I redid a simple test here:
>
>Create new tabloid doc, type one line of filler text, insert one graphic, print at 2400 on 13 x 19 paper with crop marks.
>
>On XP-Acro5-Frame6, only four of the six marks show up with no content.
>
>On 98SE-Acro4-Frame6, everything output correctly.
>
>Any idea? Doesn't that show that Frame is not the guilty party here?
>
>Also, do you know of any web page where I can find the information about this 32K limit.
>
>Thanks again,
>
>
>
>>From: Dov Isaacs <isaacs@adobe.com>
>>Reply-To: Dov Isaacs <isaacs@adobe.com>
>>To: framers@FrameUsers.com (Framers List)
>>CC: framers@frameusers.com, framers@omsys.com
>>Subject: Re: Printing 2400DPI  PDF on tabloid paper
>>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:14:24 -0700
>>
>>Thierry,
>>
>>This is a very well known problem. At a certain combination of high resolution
>>settings and paper size, the symptoms occur. Basically, if the coordinates of
>>a graphic object on a page in absolute device pixels exceeds 32K, problems
>>occur.
>>
>>The workaround is to print via PDF, creating a PDF using a driver setting
>>no more than 600 dpi. This will not have a noticeable effect on your PDF or
>>the resultant output when printing from Acrobat. (Images are NOT downsampled
>>or interpolated in FrameMaker to match the print driver resolution!)
>>Unfortunately, major coding changes to the print system would be necessary to
>>fix this problem which has unfortunately been in the Windows version of
>>FrameMaker from the beginning.
>>
>>        - Dov
>>
>>
>>
>>At 4/29/2003 03:03 PM, Thierry Lagueux wrote:
>>>Hey,
>>>I tried today to print a 11 x 17 doc at 2400 DPI and it just would not print! FrameMaker print a PS file, but it does not contain anything...
>>>
>>>(On Windows XP, Acrobat 5, Frame6+SGML)
>>>
>>>I even try to start from a new doc (11 x 17). I tried with Frame7 (with latest update), I tried Frame56, I tried using the universal driver, and a bunch of Linotype drivers, nothing works!
>>>
>>>But the doc prints fine at 1200 DPI, this is very strange.
>>>
>>>I finally had to do it on a 98 system with Acrobat 4.
>>>
>>>Does anyone knows anything about this?
>>>
>>>I tried to find some reference of Adobe's website, but did not find anything.
>>>
>>>Thierry
>>
>>
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