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Re: landscape tables, redux

Irene's problem is that the tables she's talking about are graphic objects 
which which happen to look like tables. Here's what she stated in he post:

>What I'm trying to import are graphic objects, which are already oriented
> > as landscapes

She wants the autonumbered table title, which she must type into a text 
frame above the rotated table, to also be rotated.

But even if Irene's problem matched up with the solution you describe in 
the Framemaker Help, I wouldn't use it. The reason for not using it being 
that real tables having autonumbered titles that are inserted into text 
frames within anchored frames tend to produce screwed-up autonumbering.

Consequently, the only correct way to solve this problem is to create a 
landscaped master page, per the instructions in the user guide, and apply 
that master page to the page containing the table. When this solution is 
used, the table (and its title) appear in the master page's rotated body 
text frame, thus there is no interference with the autonumbering sequence. 
Admittedly, this solution presents a problem when you want to have 
unrotated text on the same page above and/or below the rotated table. If 
that is the case, and if none of the paragraphs above/below the table are 
autonumbered, you can put such text in oppositely rotated text frames 
within anchored frames.

What it amounts to is that any solution involving objects or tables in a 
landscaped orientation is, as you said, "messy." But until Adobe puts in a 
fix to Frame's autonumbering capabilities that eliminates the misnumbering 
of things in text frames within anchored frames, all solutions are messy, 
and the messy solution you offer will not work in Irene's case.

However, in Irene's case, there is a solution which I overlooked:
1. Create an unlined, 1-row table with no header or footer row, and no 
table title.

2. Apply the autonumbered table title paragraph tag to the empty paragraph 
in the table row, and type in the table title.

3. At the end of the table title paragraph, insert an anchored frame.

4. Paste the unrotated graphic object into the anchored frame.

5. Select the table row, choose Grphics > Rotate, and rotate the table row 
90 degrees CCW.

5. Select the table row, choose Graphi > Rotate, and rootate the table row 
90 degrees CCW.

At 12:56 PM 2/2/02 -0800, Rhea Tolman wrote:
>Try this. I lifted it straight out of FrameMaker's own help and tried it out:
>1. Insert an anchored frame (see Creating anchored frames) and draw a text 
>in it.
>2  Insert the table in the text frame.
>3  Select the text frame, choose Graphics > Rotate and rotate the text frame
>counterclockwise. You may need to adjust the size of the text frame or the
>anchored frame to view the entire table.
>If you want to edit the table, unrotate the text frame and then rotate it back
>when you're finished.
>This avoids all the messy stuff with special master pages, which tend to 
>end up
>in the wrong place after you edit stuff.  I'm assuming that you want the 
>and footer to remain in portrait position, but the table and its title to be
>landscape. If you want the header and footer to change to landscape, then 
>you're stuck with applying a rotated master page.

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