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To: "Layna Andersen" <Layna.Andersen@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Where Did Palatino Go?
From: Dov Isaacs <isaacs@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 22:13:59 -0800
Cc: framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, framers@xxxxxxxxx, Frame2Acrobat@xxxxxxxxxxx
In-Reply-To: <LISTMANAGER-25396-14560-2001.12.05-21.41.33--isaacs#adobe.com@lists.raycomm.com>
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
At 12/5/2001 02:52 PM, a very frustrated Layna Andersen wrote: >Yep -- when I try to print a file via the Acrobat Distiller, it switches >fonts on me, and a look at the Format>Font list shows Palatino and Times >(the boss's favorite fonts) greyed out. I have them on my COMPUTER, so >why can't AD use them? This is irritating... > >Layna Andersen >Production Specialist >Stellent, Inc. >(formerly IntraNet Solutions) >layna.andersen@stellent.com At 12/5/2001 04:59 PM, Layna Andersen then wrote: >Yep -- when I try to print a file via the Acrobat Distiller, it switches >fonts on me, and a look at the Format>Font list shows Palatino and Times >(the boss's favorite fonts) greyed out. I know I've used -- and printed >-- these fonts before! Yet, they're not in my Adobe Type Manager, >either. This is irritating... > >Layna Andersen This is actually a very simple one! The "problem" is that Layna really DOESN'T have Times or Palatino installed on her system. If Adobe Type Manager doesn't show them, they are not installed! Then why was she able to choose these fonts for her documents and print to PostScript printers with them? Because unfortunately, the font enumeration architecture of Windows and its drivers is such that not only are fonts that are installed on the user's computer reported, but also fonts that only available on current printer device as well. In Layna's case, when the "current printer" was an actual PostScript printer, a whole bunch of fonts such as four faces of Times, eight faces of Helvetica and Helvetica Narrow, four faces of Courier, four faces of Palatino, four faces of Bookman, four faces of New Century Schoolbook, four faces of Avant Garde, as well as one face each of Symbol, Zapf Chancery, and Zapf Dingbats are reported as available to applications such as FrameMaker, EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT NOT BE INSTALLED ON THE USER'S SYSTEM. If the user attempts to format text in one of these fonts, the OS will attempt substitute a font for display without warning! But when such fonts are used and you "switch" to the Acrobat Distiller printer instance which doesn't have many "resident" fonts, you end up with the grayed out fonts and/or substitution upon Distillation and/or Distiller job failure. The safest way to avoid this problem is to not let printer-resident fonts report themselves as present per the lengthy email I sent to this list a few weeks back associated with the Zapf Dingbats display problem workaround. You can find this "fix" posted on the Adobe User-to-User Forums at: <http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?50@251.NNh2aKRUkYC^0@.ef4dc6a> - Dov ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **