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To: FrameUsers <framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, FreeFramers <framers@xxxxxxxxx>, acrobat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: O Adobe, Adobe! What a heartbreak company you are!
From: Hedley Finger <hedley.finger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 10:01:17 +1000
Organization: Ericsson Australia Pty Ltd
Reply-To: hedley.finger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
Almost the last word ... These angst outbreaks generally occur when Adobe literature, clearly targeted at a market that produces print materials, omits FrameMaker. We have seen other products, such as PageMill and the imposition and prepress applications, omitted altogether from Adobe promotions or included with downgraded profile just before they were discontinued or put into maintenance release (like PageMaker is now). So when we see FrameMaker apparently being omitted from literature where it OUGHT to appear, we equate this occurrence with the imminent shelving of the product. So Mark Hilton can easily prevent angst outbreaks occurring in the future by making sure that any brochure or whatever that includes InDesign or PageMaker also includes FrameMaker. That should do it! :o) And John Warnock won't have to give keynote addresses to put out brush fires ... > > However, I can say that it is very > common for companies (or regions) to generate promotional material that has > been defined for a very specific reason to include and exclude certain > products. There are usually very good reasons for doing so. > I certainly don't want to see bumf for Premiere 'cause I don't do movies. But the video geeks will want to see Photoshop because they get summer work-experience students to laboriously retouch commercials frame-by-frame to remove skin blemishes, stray hairs, and pinholes and other artefacts. I do want to see bumf for PageMaker, InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, and anything else that can be used with print. > > I haven't seen the material that was sent to Hedley. However, we are looking > in it. If it was a mistake, we'll fix it. If FrameMaker was left out for a > reason, we'll find out why. If the reason isn't acceptable, we'll fix it. > This what we've done in the past when we learned that FrameMaker was left > out of something and we'll continue to do this. > The Bid Red Book is an A5 ring binder that contains three tab dividers, Current Products, Non-Current Products, and Contacts. It contains cards each of which summarizes the capabilities of a particular product, the market it is intended to serve, and typical customer uses of the product. The cover letter and the tab dividers imply that it is an authoritative summary of the entire Adobe product line. FrameMaker was not the only product omitted: Adobe Extreme and Adobe Dimensions didn't make the cut either. Poor old PageMill didn't even make it to the Non-Current Product section. However, the Web Collection (GoLive! based), the Design Collection (InDesign), and the Publishing Collection (PageMaker), and PageMaker Plus by itself (a.k.a. PageMaker 6.5.x), a product now in maintenance release, WERE included. So when are we going to see the Book Publishing Collection (FrameMaker) and the individual FM products? I imagine that eventually all recipients of the Big Red Book will receive update inserts as new products are released, and new versions of current products are released. -- Regards, Hedley Finger Technical Writer [FrameMaker 5.5.6, Acrobat 3.02, Windows 98, HP OmniBook 2100] SUBSCRIBE TO THE ALTERNATIVE FRAMERS LIST Message must consist of only this text (no signature, etc.): subscribe framers <your@preferred.mail.address> help end Send above message to: <mailto:majordomo@omsys.com?Subject=subscribe%20framers> Ericsson Australia Pty Ltd Tel. +61 3 9301 6214 Cell. +61 412 461 558 Fax. +61 3 9301 6199 Email. hedley.finger@ericsson.com.au Hand Holding Projects Pty Ltd Tel. +61 3 9809 1229 Cell. +61 412 461 558 Fax. +61 3 9809 1326 Email. hfinger@handholding.com.au ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **