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To: William Swallow <William.Swallow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Free Framers <framers@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Brad's policies
From: Dan Emory <danemory@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:33:23 -0700 (MST)
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
At 09:57 AM 3/1/00 -0500, William Swallow wrote: >You asked us to speak up and I took your offer... > >If you want to run your own free list, go for it. With big lists >comes the need for some measure of control. Otherwise it'd be hard to spot >the on-topic posts. ====================================================== But the problem is that the quality of list service and related list management issues are legitimate topics. He suppresses any posts to the list that relate to these topics, and, though he says the proper course of action is to contact him off-list, he ignores those off-list complaints, and regards them as "hate mail" (his words in a post he made today). ============================================================= >I run several lists myself, and one is quickly growing. Sure, I find the >need to police it every now and again. It's the only way to keep things on >topic. And ya know what, most people are thankful for that policing, as most >people have a decent amount of work to get done and can't afford the time to >sift through volumes of garbage to get to a small nugget of information that >may or may not help them. ==================================================================== But that's exactly the situation now with the BradList. The vast majority of the posts are garbage--recurring posts about a relatively small group of problems ad nauseum: How to generate a TOC or index, conditional text issues, autonumbering problems, problems with producing PDF, issues about which graphic formats are best, "fuzzy" graphics, etc. And the people who raise these recurrent topics are failing to find the "nuggets" that would answer their questions before they post them to the list because it's too difficult for them to weed through all the chaff. The vast majority of the 2400 BradList subscribers are lurkers who never post anything. Presumably, they weed through the posts looking for those nuggets. The second category includes the ones whose posts mainly ask for help (usually help on the recurrent topics described above). The third (and smallest) category are people knowledgeable about FrameMaker who are looking for the occasional new nugget of information, and who also are willing to offer help to those in the second category. The people in this third category are also the ones who produce most of the nuggets. If the relatively small number of people in that third category start to revolt (by unsubscribing or becoming lurkers instead of participants), the list collapses, because there are no more nuggets, and no more help for the ones who need it. ==================== | Nullius in Verba | ==================== Dan Emory, Dan Emory & Associates FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing Voice/Fax: 949-722-8971 E-Mail: danemory@primenet.com 10044 Adams Ave. #208, Huntington Beach, CA 92646 ---Subscribe to the "Free Framers" list by sending a message to majordomo@omsys.com with "subscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **