Re: Brad's policies

[Dan Emory <danemory@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well said Craig. You are, however, much too charitable toward your UberFuehrer.
Brad is simply an incompetent fool who is in the unique position of being
able to suppress complaints from his victims--as long as his victims let him
get away with it. Note that he refuses even to list the free framers list as
a resource on his new (and not surprisingly) poorly designed website.
At 08:33 PM 2/29/00 -0600, Craig Ede wrote:
>Hey Brad,
>
>Get a grip, okay? You'll feel a lot better if you just let this unruly
group of muchkins do their thing without a lot of topdown listowner crap.
Dysfunctional group that we are, we still don't need a Enforcer to clean up
our acts for us.
>
>We can all move to free framers after all. Many folks dual post, but a
serious boycott of YOUR frameusers list would make the other list a whole
lot more attractive to people with questions if your established base of
professional users (like Thomas) fled en masse to framers@omsys.com 
>
>Dude, you been hangin' inside the beltway too long or somethin'. Doncha
know that the movement is toward LOCAL control. That would mean posters
might get to make their own decisions about appropriateness...and be able to
make a mistake or two. 
>
>Heavens to Betsy! What anarchy could come of that? And, yes, this is an
appropriate topic for the list to discuss onlist rather than behind the scenes.
>
>Dual posted,
>
>Craig
>FUMFTMBIGN... (FrameUser Munchkin For The Moment, But I'm Gettin' Nervous...)
>Los Jugadores Bazutadores
>"Well I had to move fast, but I couldn't with you around my neck..." B. Dylan
>
>>>> "Thomas Michanek" <thomas.michanek@telia.com> 02/29/00 07:00PM >>>
>>Careful about criticizing the policies of the management and the functioning
>>of the services.  Look what it gets you ...
>>----------------
>>... You are welcome to
>>participate if you will abide by the rules.  If you choose not to abide,
>>then appropriate action will be taken.
>>Please do not post test messages or your personal judgements of the
>>list/software/filters to the list--you know the rules, were even reminded of
>>the rules by the autoresponder, and you still decided to post your message.
>>Please don't let it happen again.
>
>OK, people, how long are YOU willing to take this???
>IMHO, it's time to consider a joint action against Brad!
>At least we should urge every FrameUser to move to Free Framers.
>Speak up now. If you don't want to "pollute" the list, send an
>email to me and state your point of view.
>Every single list member ought to have an opinion of this.
>
>I, for one, remember the times when "framers" was a community run by
>a nice admin caring about peoples' opinions, ideas and criticism,
>and changed the list accordingly. The admin didn't "own" the list,
>didn't kick people off the list, didn't threaten them, and didn't
>run the list like a dictator. The times are a-changing, aren't they?
>
>Pissed off,
>
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