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To: "'franks@xxxxxxxxxxxx'" <franks@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "'Free-Framers Self-Help'" <framers@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Cross Platform?
From: "Hedley Finger (EPA)" <Hedley.Finger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:18:23 +1100
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
One of the more brilliant things Apple did was to associate a creator type (MSWD = MS Word, R*ch = BBedit) and a file type (TEXT = ASCII, FBok = FrameMaker book) with every file. These replace the .ext used in Windows to identify the file type. Space and your time forbids an extensive explanation of why creator and file types are A Good Thing. However, every Macintosh file actually consists of two files (or forks, in MacJargon). The resource fork contains the type information, among other information, and the data fork contains the document. Various network operating systems handle this in different ways. Some create a Resource folder within every folder that contains the resource forks of all the files in the folder. (Get a MacFriend to save some files on an MSDOS formatted disk and poke it into your Windows machine to see the bunch of files that the Mac OS uses.) Another approach is to prepend the resource fork to the data fork before writing it onto the file server with the foreign operating system. This option is rarely used because of the problems you have encountered. Apple and the network OS vendors have solutions to allow complete file interchange, so get your NT guru or your nearest Apple consultant to help you work out what's going wrong. Macintoshes have been working with networked files servers and other heterogeneous clients for years, so your glitch is fixable. I have worked in an environment of both Mac and Windows FrameMaker users storing files on an UNIX file server without problems, proof that your problem is fixable. (Hmmmmm, Windows NT Networking, Bill Gates, and Mac ... is THAT your problem?) Regards, Hedley > -----Original Message----- > From: franks@fsatools.com [SMTP:franks@fsatools.com] > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 8:41 AM > To: framers@FrameUsers.com > Subject: Re: Cross Platform? > > > At 02:13 PM 1/26/00 , Madeleine Reardon wrote: > > >A more mundane problem: these files were created on Windows. I'm > working on > > >them on a Mac. I sent a test file to an NT machine & it can't open it, > offers > > >the Unknown File Type box and wants to know what to convert it to. Any > > >ideas why? > > I'm not a Mac person, but this problem has occurred before. (I was bitten > by it years ago; others have been too.) In some network modes, the Mac OS > places a 1/2 KByte of file system preamble info in front of each file -- > can't remember what it's called. > > Somewhere in the Mac system controls, there's a parameter to remove this > and restore the native file when sending it out of the Mac universe. > > Saving to MIF won't help, as you'll have the Mac OS preamble there as > well; would not suggest opening the binary with a text editor, > either; editors can play havoc with some binary characters. > > Check your network controls, or ask a Mac expert about this. > > + --------------------------------------------------------------------- + > | Frank Stearns Associates | Developers of Tools for FrameMaker(r): | > | mailto:franks@fsatools.com | IXgen, FM2A, Programmable Export Kit | > | 360/892-3970 fx:360/253-1498 | Now shipping IXgen 5.5 for Windows!! | > + --------------------------------------------------------------------- + > | http://www.pacifier.com/~franks (Email if web page access problems) | > + --------------------------------------------------------------------- + > > ========= Personal List Subscription Information ========= > You are currently subscribed to framers as: Hedley.Finger@ericsson.com.au > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-framers-26913F@lists.frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin@FrameUsers.com. > Visit the FrameUsers website: http://www.FrameUsers.com > ========================================================== ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **