RE: Adobe Certified Newsletter -- notice about FrameMaker

[David Crowe <David.Crowe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Bill;

I second that thought. I've seen much completely irrational behaviour 
on the part of business.

Adobe's apparent decision that they would not port Frame to OSX was 
presumably based on the lack of Mac upgrades which were due to the 
lack of a port to OSX.

Similarly the lack of profits from the product cannot be due to 
marketing costs, because it's hard to see any marketing for the 
product going on.

- David Crowe


At 2:53 PM -0300 7/19/05, Bill Briggs wrote:
> At 1:06 PM -0400 7/19/05, Stephen Arrants wrote:
> > Bill Briggs writes:
> > >    No kidding. Why would you buy it if the thing may not exist
> > >  in a year or two. Having a CEO who is an ex-MS guy may have
> > >  something to do with it.
> >
> > He's also an ex-Claris guy, for what that's worth.  I mean seriously--do
> > you think he'd base a business decision solely on the fact that he
> > worked for Microsoft at one time?
>
>  Looking at the history of the computing business over the last 30 
> years I'd never underestimate the ability of personal biases, likes, 
> dislikes, friendships, vendettas, etc. to affect someone's business 
> decisions, even if it didn't make good business sense. I saw a lot 
> of stupid decisions made at Nortel that were made not for the 
> benefit of the company, but to bolster the particular manager's 
> fiefdom. Don't underestimate the ability of people to rationalize 
> any justification they desire. If business operated sensibly all the 
> time there would not have been the Enron, Worldcom, Anderson 
> Consulting, [fill in name] problems. If you doubt it, check out the 
> history of Novell and its relation to MS (paying attention to the 
> personalities that run the company). Sometimes it's not about money.
>
> > Doe you think the Board would go along with that?
>
>  I think many of these boards are docile entities that have very 
> little to do with the day to day running of the corp.
>
> > Like all corporations, Adobe exists to make money for
> > its shareholders. If they could make money selling Mac Framemaker,
> > they'd still be doing it. It is more likely that the development and
> > marketing costs for Mac Framemaker didn't justify itself.
>
>  Marketing costs?  What marketing?
>
>  There seems to be a fairly good pent up demand for an OS X version. 
> <http://www.infopage.net/fmforosx/>  And that's the ones who 
> bothered to write, some of whom represent many seats (for example, 
> my signature on that petition represents 25 seats on three 
> platforms).
>
> - web
>
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