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Subject: RE: formating a TOC
From: Mary_Hall_Sheahan@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:30:00 -0500
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I think you should read through the topic "Cross-References and Footnotes"
in the FrameMaker online help to see if this idea is anything remotely like
what you want. You may prefer to use the other options suggested on this
list because this is not automatically generated. It is, however,
automatically _updated_ once you manually set up the list.
I made a copy of your file and deleted everything. Then I inserted a
cross-reference to the author, and a cross-reference to the email. (Select
>Special >Cross-reference from the FrameMaker main menu). You would add
these 2 cross-references for each paper, in whatever sequence you want the
list to appear. You can make a cross-reference format that says "on page
xxx" if you want and the page # will update when the book is renumbered.
And if the author's name is corrected or the email changes, those changes
will automatically carry over when you update the cross-references.
Mary
"The PHOENIXTN
ICT Team" To: Mary_Hall_Sheahan@xxxxxxxxxxx
<webmaster@phoe cc:
nixtn.net> Subject: RE: formating a TOC
11/12/2004
01:24 PM
I'm afraid I'm lost... :-(
You have sent to me a Cross-refs.fm file. Is this file generated as a list
of Cross-refs from the shaehner.fm one? Sorry, but I don't know how :-(
Thanks,
Ricardo
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The PHOENIXTN ICT Team
>>> <Mary_Hall_Sheahan@xxxxxxxxxxx> 11/12/2004 18:41:31 >>>
If you set the cross-references up once, you *can* move the papers
around--just make sure to move the cross-reference markers with them.
It's the other version that can't do what you need.
Mary
"The PHOENIXTN
ICT Team" To: Mary_Hall_Sheahan@xxxxxxxxxxx
<webmaster@phoe cc:
nixtn.net> Subject: RE: formating a TOC
11/12/2004
12:59 PM
Thanks indeed, Mary. Yes, I think I get the point, but to move files around
in the book including the papers is a must here. So, perhaps we have to
consider another alternative.
Best,
Ricardo
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The PHOENIXTN ICT Team
>>> <Mary_Hall_Sheahan@xxxxxxxxxxx> 11/12/2004 17:47:23 >>>
To use my generated-list suggestion, the authors names and emails would
appear in the same sequence they appear in the book. i.e. not
alphabetically.
To use the cross-reference suggestion, you'd have to make each
cross-reference manually for each author name and email. But then if the
papers were rearranged, the cross-refs stay in the order you created them.
Does that help?
(See attached file: Cross-refs.fm)
Mary
"The PHOENIXTN
ICT Team" To:
Mary_Hall_Sheahan@xxxxxxxxxxx
<webmaster@phoe cc:
nixtn.net> Subject: RE: formating a TOC
11/12/2004
11:57 AM
Thanks indeed for your answer, Mary.
Sorry, I think I don't understand well your proposal. I've attached to this
message a sample file. I've a number of them like this. You can see that
both author and email are tagged with the corresponding paragraph styles.
How can I control the position of email and author in a TOC by using
cross-references?
Thank you very much for your help,
Ricardo
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The PHOENIXTN ICT Team
>>> <Mary_Hall_Sheahan@xxxxxxxxxxx> 11/11/2004 21:37:20 >>>
This depends heavily on how the information exists in the documents from
which you are generating the list. If you set it up with 2 paragraph
tag--one for "name" and a paragraph tag for "email"--you will then have 2
separate tags in your generated file, and you can set it up so that the one
you want to appear first has property "runin".
*BUT*--a generated list will always appear in the same the sequence the
tags appear in your source document.
I don't suppose you'd want to set it up with cross-references? You'd have
to manually add the cross-refs, but you could control the sequence.
Mary
"Bill Marcotte"
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TOC
11/11/2004 03:00 PM
Does it have to be *totally* automated? If you generate Name<tab>Email, you
could convert the list to a table, then cut the first column and paste as
the
second column.
Bill Marcotte
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Subject: Re: formating a TOC
That's the point! Surely FM is not the best tool for this kind of
manipulation, but it is quite convenient for generating the list from this
information in each of the papers composing a proceedings book. In each
paper, I've an author and several co-authors followed by her/his email.
What
I want to do is, instead of copy-pasting again each entry, generate a
document with the proposed format that is the entry for an application that
automatically generate email distribution lists in our email server.
Following several received advises to use Side Heads, I can generate
without
problem the list as:
Sandro Cattacin cattacin@xxxxxxxx
But not as:
cattacin@xxxxxxxx Sandro Cattacin
As far as the author is always before his/her email address.
I'm not dealing with a structured document. Just a document with the
correponding paragraph formats applied to each piece of information.
Any idea will be welcome!
Best,
Ricardo
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The PHOENIXTN ICT Team
>>> David Crowe<David.Crowe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 11/11/2004 19:00 >>>
Why not just format the list as:
<cattacin@xxxxxxxx> "Sandro Cattacin"
(and then delete any occurrences of "").
Most email systems will handle the email name and real name in this
format, on one line.
I'm not sure that Frame is the best tool for this kind of manipulation.
- David Crowe
(See attached file: shaehner.fm)
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