PC MACRO SOURCE SUMMARY Re: Desperately seeking macros

[Jay Smith <jay@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The following snips are from previous Framers' posts.  I copy without comment,
not having any experience with these........

#1 ===============================

Lora:
> 
> The only software I have found to work inside of Frame 5.1.1 and
> Frame 5.5.2 is a piece of software called "MacroExpress 98".
> 
> It is available at http://www.wintools.com.
> 
> Be sure that you set the macro(s) to run INSIDE the application
> (Frame), or any time you accidentally touch one of the shortcut
> keys combinations, it makes windows do funny things.
> 
> This program also picks up mouse movements!!!!
> 
> Smitty
> 
> > Subject: Macros on PC
> > From: "Lora Viator" <viator@infodata.com>
> > Date: 25 Sep 1998 21:28:27 -0000
> >
> > Is there a way to create macros in FM on a PC like you can on UNIX? Are macros
> > called something different on a PC platform

#2 =============================


I am not sure if this works in Windows98 or not, but it
sure does work in Windows95, INSIDE OF FRAME 5.1.1!!!

Insight Software Solutions has Macro Express 98. I tried it on
a friends machine, and we macroed a bunch of stuff in Frame 5.1.

The URL is http://www.macros.com/
and you can download a demo copy.

I do not work for Insight, I have just been searching for a macro
recorder that will work inside of windows 95 and Frame for a long time.

The full-up cost is $34.95 + $3.00 s/h inside the U.S.

Believe me, it really helped me. Plus you can edit your capture strokes,
and it picks up cursor movements!!!!

Keith Smyth

#3 ===================================


Hi, don't know who'd be interested, but since I'm an old-time user of
FrameMaker on the Unix platform, switching to FM on windows was sort of a
bummer. Like I can no longer record keystrokes to same myself time... Well I
found something that some of you may be interested in using.

I've downloaded a trial version (licensed version is $29.95) and tested it
out. Yes, you can record keystrokes in your Frame document and create the
macro in this tool. Works great, so far, and the price is right. Check out the
site, if anyone knows of a better product I'd like to hear about it.

        http://www.iolo.com                 web site

        mm@iolo.com                        e-mail

Happy time saving!

Joyce Uyeno
Uyeno & Associates
Technical Writing
j_uyeno@geocitites.com

#4 *Long* =======================================


> Query (off topic): does a practical Windows-based macro program
> exist? ... there is the occasional person who seems to be sure
> one exists- he just doesn't know the name of it.

An alternative is to get a macro keyboard. Here are a couple of messages
I saved a while back. I haven't tried this, but it sounds good.

Regards
---
Stuart Burnfield                "Fun, fun, fun
Functional Software Pty Ltd      In the sun, sun, sun. . ."
mailto:slb@fs.com.au


------- Forwarded Messages

Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:25:26 -0500
Subject: Re[2]: Macro Recorders for Frame
     
     The AutoKey 20/20 lets you do any keystoke.  The left ALT key slows 
     the macro down, but the right ALT works as a regular ALT key.  
     There is no software to run.  
     
     You just press the SELECT button twice, type a macro and then press 
     one of the 20 M keys.  The macro is recorded.
     
     There are 20 virtual keyboards. To select keyboard 3 you press SELECT 
     and the M 3 key. The keyboard is selected.
     
     I think it really makes FrameMaker a wonderful program.  Without the 
     AutoKey you have to remember a bunch of keystrokes.  I just press a 
     button for GO TO, FULL PAGE, ZOOM UP, SPELL, FIRST PAGE. LAST PAGE,
     UP CELL, CONNECT FRAME and so forth.
     
     George Norwood
     
     ______________________________ Reply Separator 

     Subject: Re: Macro Recorders for Frame
     Author:  george.norwood@cyrix.com at SMTPlink-Cyrix
     Date:    7/21/95 1:05 PM
     
     I use a little macro keyboard that fits in back of the F1-F12 keys 
     called AutoKey 20/20 made by Mextel.  It works for all programs as it 
     immulates the keyboard directly. It costs in the $240 dollar range.  
     It is really great for FrameMaker on a PC.  With one key I goto a 
     page, or zoom to a full page or zoom in.  I can use all those strange 
     short-cut keys such as <ESC> <SHIFT t or what ever.  You get 20 extra 
     keys.  Each key can be programmed 20 different ways.  This gives you 
     400 macro keys.  You can call Mextel at (708) 595-4146.  They are 
     located in Bensenville, Illinois.
     
     George Norwood
     
______________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________

Subject: Macro Recorders for Frame
Author:  "randall graham" <randall_graham@mail.amsinc.com> at SMTPlink-Cyrix 
Date:    7/21/95 8:35 AM
     
     I'm wondering which scripting tool is better to use to record macros 
     in FrameMaker for Windows: Central Point PCTools or Norton Desktop? 
     We're trying to decide which one to purchase for our group.
     
     Thanks a lot!

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 12:53:54 -0700
To: va@re.dk
From: atc@sense8.com (Arthur Comings)
Subject: Re: More on that macro keypad

I haven't used the Mextel auxiliary keyboard that George Norwood mentioned
awhile ago, but I've read their literature and talked to them, and I'm ready
to order one.  

They cautioned that it may not work with all PC's, but it sounds pretty
basic (it plugs in in-line between the keyboard and the computer console and
requires no software installation) and they seem to be willing to take them
back if they don't work on a particular machine.

 It's a keypad the width of your keyboard; it ataches to the back of the
keyboard  (or stands alone), and has a little flip-chart to contain all of
your macro names.

There's the AutoKey 20/20 with 400 key combos for @$290, and the AutoKey
40, with 40 combos, for @ $140.x

That's what I know about it. Here's where you can ask for brochures:

        Mextel, Inc.
        159 Beeline Drive
        Bensenville, Ilinois 60106, USA
        
        Phone: 1-800-888-4146
        FAX: 1-708-595-4149

**END** ====================

Gemmell,Dal wrote:
> 
> I really, really, really, really, hope the next version of Frame has a macro
> function for us poor users running on a Microsoft machine.
> 
> After converting a large Word file, I am manually applying the styles and it
> is taking a very, very long time. I can't help but think that my life would
> be much easier if Frame had a simple macro function.
> 
> I know, I'm sure if I purchased and learned FrameScript I could write a
> script that could make my life much easier, and if I was on Unix this
> wouldn't be an issue. However, I just want a simple macro function for the
> Windows version to help me with repetitive actions. Am I asking too much?
> 
> While I'm ranting, I can't believe that Adobe hasn't made the converting
> Word documents more painless. Right now, it's not bad, but there is a lot of
> room for improvement. I mean let's face it, there are a lot of companies
> that have been and still are, using Word for long documents. That equals a
> large number of legacy Word documents that writers, if they chose to use
> Frame over Word, would have to convert. Most people I know avoid performing
> extra work like mad cow's disease, so why would they commit to something
> that forces them to spend more time, in addition to their normal workload,
> converting legacy Word documents? After all, like my boss once said to me,
> "Word still works!"
> 
> Perhaps I'm missing the "big picture". I am a mere technical writer and
> couldn't possibly understand the motives or forces behind Adobe's bigwigs.
> But if I was in a position to influence Adobe, I would tell them Frame
> should perform this Word-to- Frame conversion quickly and painlessly with no
> clean up afterward. I mean the more Word documents that get converted to
> FrameMaker the better for Adobe right? In addition, they could do other
> things like publishing white papers or tutorials on their web site. If they
> were really aggressive they could set up an FTP service where you would send
> your Word legacy documents and Adobe employees would convert them and send
> them back to you as beautiful Frame documents. This would pay off in the
> long run because the majority of the legacy documents would be Frame's and
> people would be more committed to using Frame. May be the bigwigs are too
> focused on things like, InDesign, GoLive, Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere
> etc., to be concerned about such a petty matter.
> 
> That's all...
> 
> Dal
> 
> dal_gemmell@email.syscom.com.tw
> 
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