Re: Another Frame graphic question (positioning graphic frames)

[Jay Smith <jay@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Andy,

I may not be answering the question that you are asking, but what we do is use
BELOW CURRENT LINE as the positioning for the anchored frame in the Anchored
Frame dialog. For our work, we do not normally use At Insertion Point, which
is what I think you have been using.

To get the Above spacing, in the Paragraph Designer, we set the Space Above to
the desired amount.  

We rely on the Space Above of the NEXT paragraph's tag to provide the desired
below-frame spacing.

Furthermore, during the development/editing/proofing process, but before
pagination is dealt with, we set the Type Size of the paragraph to 12 or
greater.  Then when it comes time to actually double check pagination and
other such behavior, we reduce it to 2 points -- and there is stays. 
Initially using the larger size allows you to "get at" the anchor.

Try it and see if it works for you.

-- 
Jay Smith

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Andy.Kubrin@tanner.com wrote:
> 
> Jay,
> 
> I've also considered using a text-free paragraph to place graphics, but I
> have trouble positioning the anchored frame.  What value do you use for
> Distance above Baseline?  If it's not a fixed value, how do you arrive at
> one?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Andy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers@FrameUsers.com [mailto:Framers@FrameUsers.com]On Behalf Of
> Jay Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 2:30 PM
> To: John Posada; FrameUsers List; Frame List
> Subject: Re: Another Frame graphic question
> 
> John,
> 
> Am I understanding correctly that you have anchored the graphic INTO a
> paragraph containing text?
> 
> The only circumstance in which I do that is when the graphic will be
> floating
> -- and in that particular case, I put the graphic into a graphic frame that
> is
> in a TABLE (one cell for the graphic frame, the cell below for the caption)
> rather than into a plain graphic frame.  BTW, the purpose of using a table
> for
> this is that tables are AUTO-SIZING; it will grow/shrink as appropriate to
> fit
> the graphic and the caption text.  Tables also allow you to use NUMBERING
> for
> the captions whereas you have serious caption numbering problems if you use
> more than one caption in a normal anchored graphic frame.
> 
> If I want the graphic immediately above/below certain text, I DO use a
> paragraph without text just to anchor the graphic.  That paragraph is tagged
> as appropriate: graphic-incolumn, graphic-spancolum, etc.  You thus have the
> ability to globally position your offset from the text, etc.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Jay
> 
> --
> Jay Smith
> 
> e-mail: jay@jaysmith.com
> 
> The Press for History(tm), The Press for Education(tm),
> The Press for [Your Industry](tm), The Press for....(tm)
>   On-demand printing and binding of hardbound books.
>   Minimum run one copy.
> 
> P.O. Box 650
> Snow Camp, NC  27349  USA
> 
> Phone: Int+US+336-376-9991
> Toll-Free Phone in US & Canada:
>         1-800-447-8267
> Fax: Int+US+336-376-6750
> 
> John Posada wrote:
> >
> > Well, guys...I guess it's not going to be difficult to
> > figure out what I'm working on today... :-(
> >
> > Question:
> >
> > I place a grahic box by the following sequence:
> >
> > Special -> Anchored Frame > Below Current Line
> >
> > I use Right Alignment, width 3.75 (was 3.25, but
> > that's the other story), and the graphic inside I
> > assign Left-T/B Center.
> >
> > The problem that I have is that the graphic is too
> > close to the paragraph above it where I placed the
> > anchor.  I guess I could place a Hard Return on the
> > line, then place the anchor, but I don't as a practice
> > use returns for positioning. That's what tag
> > properties are for.
> >
> > Is there a way of defining an amount of space around
> > the outside of this type of Anchored Frame? I thought
> > maybe Border Width in Object Properties, but this adds
> > a line width inside the frame, not outside.
> >
> > I could make the graphics frame .25" taller than the
> > graphic and have the graphic Alignment Center, but not
> > all of my graphics are the same hight so I'd need to
> > manually adjust each Frame.
> >
> > <sigh>
> >
> > BTW...incase it matters, the graphics are BMPs,
> > captured with Snagit, using Window setting, so there
> > is no margin around the graphic itself to act as a
> > buffer or margin.
> >
> > ===
> > John Posada
> > Western Union International
> > (w) jposada@westernunion.com
> > (p) john@tdandw.com
>

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