Re: InDesign and Frame - some remarks

[Dmitri Yunov <yudmi@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Jeremy,

At first hand I am sorry, - of course, I meant Ares firm (www.ares.com)
and Ares FontChameleon/Adobe "Chameleon" font format.

About Virtuoso:

Some quote:
<...>
"FreeHand has always been engineered by a small group near Dallas.

Originally it was engineered by a company called Altsys corporation and
Aldus handled the marketing and tech support for the FreeHand label.
Altsys created a version of FreeHand 4.0 that ran on the NeXT hardware and
under Sun Solaris. Aldus didn't market it so Altsys marketed it itself
under the name "Virtuoso". Virtuoso used DPS on the NeXT and I believe
NeWS on the Solaris environment. Neither sold very well and the products
were dropped."
<...>

Good description of AltSys Virtuoiso exist at:
"http://www.cern.ch/NeXT/Next_Nugget_News_Digest/vol5_issue8";
too.

noaaioa, 13 Ia?o 1999, you wrote:

JHG> On Sat, 13 Mar 1999 10:03:04 +0000, Roger Jones
<Roger.Jones@rjpc.demon.co.uk>
JHG> wrote:
>>At 08:44 12/03/99 +0300, Dmitri Yunov wrote:
>>>FrameMaker is "alien" product for Adobe. Don't forget it!
>>And Word for Word was dead just months after its acquisition by Adobe.
JHG> I can't fault Adobe for that decision.  Word-for-Word was the MasterSoft
JHG> product, and MasterSoft was purchased for it by Frame Technology before
JHG> Again, this was FTC management, *not* Adobe, that made that decision.
JHG> When Adobe found itself with an ugly mess on its hands, it did the
JHG> sensible and honorable thing, and sold it to Inso, MasterSoft's former
JHG> main competitor, who promptly buried it.  Sadly, the legacy lives on
JHG> in FM's filters; look in maker.ini for the ones marked "AW4W" to see
JHG> which ones are best avoided...

Formally you are right. But some comments are need..

The one of main legal "indispensable conditions" of FTC sell finishing with
Adobe was the "sucesfull absorption of Mastersoft Word-for-Word by FTC".
Let's re-read old computer press like "Publish!" Sorry I am reference in 
this point to old issue of "Publish! Russian edition", but I am sure you 
can find another source of this info in Web.

The cost from Frame absorption was over two points compare to Aldus
assimilation (as I remember hazily it was about 420 mill. compare to 
270 mill.).

If we remember, Corel and Interleaf were very disappointed to Adobe
choice of FM in opposite to Ventura or Ileaf (according to old comp.
review too). So in same time Quark Inc. set aside for next year the 
release of Quark 4 as since two main QXP programmers deserted to Adobe. 
Now we can to see the birthday of InDesign (former "Kwark Killer" - ah! - 
poor James Joise and his "Finnegan's funeral"..)

Best regards,

Dmitri Yunov
yudmi@star.spb.ru

DTP multilingual support/consulting
multilingual font technology


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