RE: PDF: visible registration marks

["Schwedland, Steve" <Schwedsl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dan, Peder and all,

Forgive me if I am being somewhat obtuse here.  I am not familiar with the
Super Crop plug-in, however I have used the cropping functionality within
Exchange quite extensively.  When I re-create your situation, I have no
problem at all creating an A4 page with crop marks visible, by following
your instructions.  The only difference is that you are using Super Crop and
I am manually setting the margins in the "Crop Pages" dialog in Exchange.
Just in case you want them here are the settings I used in that dialog
window (with an A4 page size and printed to A3 paper):

	Left:	75
	Top:	120
	Right:	75
	Bottom:	120
Pages set to "All"

The other option you could use would be to install a PPD that allows for
custom paper sizes - the Acrobat Distiller PPD works just fine.  Then set
your custom paper size to 250mm x 350mm.  Create the PDF and then simply
remove all cropping from it. Simple as that.



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SYKES Enterprises, Incorporated
Worldwide Product Information Development
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Telephone: (303) 440-0909; ext. 133
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Dan Emory [SMTP:danemory@primenet.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, February 09, 1999 5:55 PM
> To:	Peder Axensten; Free Framers
> Subject:	Re: PDF: visible registration marks
> 
> At 01:01 PM 2/9/99 +0100, Peder Axensten wrote:
> >On a Macintosh I want to generate a pdf document with visible
> registration
> >marks. The actual printing area is A4, so to get room for the marks I
> need
> >something bigger: A3. I print it to ps file with Generate Acrobat data
> on.
> >I then distill the file and open the resulting pdf in Acrobat Exchange.
> >Thanks to Shlomo Perets I know that I must "uncrop" the document to see
> >anything more than the A4 printed area after generating a ps file with
> >Acrobat data on.
> >
> >Using the Exchange plug-in Super Crop I make the hole A3 area visible (in
> >Acrobat Exchange) and voila: registration marks! ...And a lot of white
> >space. Now I want to crop it to just outside the marks and I draw my
> >cropping-box acordingly. I do the Crop command on "all" and the document
> is
> >cropped, but not to my box but to something rather completely else...
> ##################################################
> I don't use the registration marks produced when you select Registration
> Marks in the print dialog box. Instead, I perform the following steps to
> create and use my own crop marks embedded in each master page:
> 
> 1. In FrameMaker, create a new empty document having the A4 page size.
> Then,
> choose Format > Page Layout > Page Size, and change the page size of the
> new
> document so that it is 0.5" larger in height and width than the A4 page
> size.
> 
> 2. In the new empty document created in step 1, create a new empty master
> page (no text frame). In this empty master page, use the FrameMaker
> drawing
> tool to create a crop mark just like the one produced at the upper left
> corner when you turn on registration marks in the print dialog box. Adjust
> the position and length of the bottom horizontal line, and the position
> and
> height of the vertical line at the right, so that, when all of the objects
> in the crop mark are grouped, the height and width of the grouped object
> will be EXACTLY 0.25"
> 
> 3. Group the objects that make up the crop mark created in step 2, and
> position this grouped object so that it has zero offset from the top and
> left page edges.
> 
> 4. Make a copy of the grouped crop mark object created in step 3, select
> the
> new copy, and flip it left/right. Move this flipped copy of the crop mark
> to
> the position where it has zero offset from the top and right page edges.
> 
> 5. Make another copy of the grouped crop mark object created in step 3
> (the
> one at the upper left), select the new copy, and flip it up/down. Move
> this
> flipped copy of the crop mark to the position where is has zero offset
> from
> the left and bottom page edges.
> 
> 6. Make a copy of the grouped crop mark object created in step 5 (the one
> at
> the bottom left), select the new copy, and flip it left/right. Move this
> flipped copy of the crop mark to the position where it has zero offset
> from
> the right and bottom page edges.
> 
> 7. Select all four of the grouped crop mark objects created in steps 2
> thru
> 6, and group them into a single object. Then, copy the grouped crop marks
> to
> the clipboard.
> 
> 8. Now, open the actual document (having the exact A4 page size) in which
> you want to add the crop marks, and make the page size 0.5" larger in
> height
> and width than the A4 page size.
> 
> 9. On each of the document's master pages, select all objects (text
> frames,
> etc.) on the master page, group them, and move the grouped master page
> objects 0.25" left and 0.25" down from their present position. Then,
> ungroup
> them. This action adjusts the master page positions to compensate for the
> additional 0.25" of margins at the left and top page edges produced by the
> increased page size accomplished in step 8.
> 
> 10. After completing step 9, go back to each master page, and paste in the
> crop marks that were copied to the clipboard in step 7. Be sure that the
> pasted crop mark object has zero offset from the left and top page edges.
> 
> 11. When you print the A4 document to a postscript file, specify a custom
> paper size that is the same size as the new size of the document (i.e.,
> 0.5"
> larger in height and width than the A4 page size).
> 
> 12. Distill the postscript file, and open the resulting PDF file in
> Acrobat.
> Observe that the crop marks appear without having to uncrop the document,
> and that no white space appears outside the crop marks. Now, use the crop
> tool to move the crop lines to coincide with the crop marks. Voila!
> 
> You can now use the new document with crop marks created in steps 1 thru 7
> to copy the grouped crop marks into any other A4 document by performing
> steps 8 thru 10.
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