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To: "'Grant Hogarth'" <Grant.Hogarth@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Halleman, Joseph (Joseph)" <halleman@xxxxxxxxxx>, Furia <nfuria@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Lisa Bronson <Lisa.Bronson@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: indent right margin on first line
From: "Halleman, Joseph (Joseph)" <halleman@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:29:27 -0500
Cc: Framers <framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, framers2 <framers@xxxxxxxxx>
Delivered-to: jeremyg-freeframers:org-ffarchiv@freeframers.org
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Garth, Please note that my technique of adding non-breaking spaces or soft returns to the paragraph headings, table titles, or figure captions is done in the chapter/section files of the document, not in the TOC, LOF, or LOT files. My technique only needs to be done once to the headings. The non-breaking spaces and soft returns are carried over to the TOC, LOF, and LOT files just like any other character in the heading. I hope this clarifies my technique. Joseph Halleman Information Products & Training, PSAX Products Sr. Information Developer Lucent Technologies 8301 Professional Place Landover, MD 20785 301-352-4715 halleman@xxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Grant Hogarth [mailto:Grant.Hogarth@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:20 To: Halleman, Joseph (Joseph); Furia; Lisa Bronson Cc: Framers; framers2 Subject: RE: indent right margin on first line A fillip to the very viable techniques that Joseph lists here is to adjust the right margin of the header in question; this will only affect the display of the header on the page, not the ToC. Note: As this does cause you to have "non-standard" paragraphs, global changes to this paratype will wipe it out. You *can* fudge that by creating a new paratag, but that induces its own maintenance issues. <wry grin> Generally I only use this technique when I have to go to print "Right Now", and don't have time to work out the more elegant/robust solution. ___________________________________________ Grant Hogarth Technical Writer, Equis International ghogarth@xxxxxxxxx / Grant.Hogarth@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Halleman, Joseph (Joseph) [mailto:halleman@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:26 AM Subject: RE: indent right margin on first line Lisa, Here are some workarounds that I use on my TOCs, LOTs, and LOFs. From the generated list determine where the title needs to break so the title wraps without going into the page number area. Go to the offending (Ctrl+Alt+click heading) heading, table title, or figure caption in the document and either: 1) insert a soft return in the title to force it to wrap at the point you noted in the generated list, or 2) replace the spaces between the last few words of the title with non-breaking spaces (Esc n s) to hold the words together. You will have to Update Book again to see if the changes fixed the line problem. It may take several tries to get it to look okay in both locations. Joseph Halleman Information Products & Training, PSAX Products Sr. Information Developer Lucent Technologies halleman@xxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Furia Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 09:49 Subject: Re: indent right margin on first line Lisa My solution is to transform all the TOC lines in two pgfs, the first a run-in head with a right indent. With FrameScript it is very simple. Furia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Bronson" <Lisa.Bronson@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "Framers List" <framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: indent right margin on first line > I work with documents that get translated into > several languages. > Some languages, like German, French, and Spanish, > tend to expand a lot, and the lines in my TOC > aren't long enough for them. They wrap to another > line, which would be fine, except that sometimes > words on the first line will extend out into the > area where the page numbers are. To fix it, I > have been using a soft return. The only problem > with that is then I have to remember to go through > the TOC every time I update the book. > > Is there any way to fix this? I was thinking that > a first-line indent of the right margin would work, > but that doesn't seem to be an option. > Any ideas? > > Thanks! > Lisa B. ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **