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To: <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <FRAMERS@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Juggling pages
From: Peter Gold <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:27:08 -0600
In-Reply-To: <NDEHJPJLLFEAHLAJPEEAGELOCFAA.david@pmssystems.com>
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Did you perform Edit > Update Book before printing? If "yes," then there may be something remaining on the "blank" pages. Turn on View > Text Symbols and View > Text Frames, and Special > Conditional Text > Show/Hide > Show Condition Indicators to see everything on every page. Sometimes conditional text is not applied to the final carriage return of conditional material, which might cause faulty pagination. Sometimes empty carriage returns are used to space between paragraphs, instead of space above and below paragraph settings in the paragraph's format, set in the paragraph designer. These may affect pagination. Also, widow/orphan settings may affect page text flow when conditional text is shown or hidden. Also, make sure that the first page of each file uses a custom master page designed for chapter-opener pages, with Format > Page Layout > Master Page Usage. There's more to this process than the quick suggestions we're all giving you. You probably need to work through the sections in the hard-copy manuals and/or online help and/or the third-party "FrameMaker 7: The Complete Reference" that relate to book techniques to get a holistic picture of all the subordinate steps. Regards, Peter Gold _________________________________________________________________________ KnowHow ProServices FrameMaker training, coaching, consulting, template design See our new on-demand training and coaching information at: http://www.knowhowpro.com/schedule_of_classes.htm Adobe Certified Expert: FrameMaker 7, FrameMaker+SGML Authoring, Acrobat 5, InDesign 2, WebWorks Professional Certified trainer Voice: 612.823.7113 Mobile: 650.906.3655 On 10/31/03 10:52 AM, "David Harrison" <david@pmssystems.com> wrote: > Hi Guys > > This page continuity is turning out to be quite interesting - I've quickly > played about with your suggestions but am coming to the conclusion that it's > best letting Framemaker take charge and letting all chapters start on the > right hand side. > > As Peter said - changing to single sided is not a real solution since we no > longer have left and right handed pages. > Using DoubleSided > 1st page side > next available gets closer but it > introduces another strange phenomena. > In my example, Ch1 ends on page 27 (odd) - before I tried any of this > Framemaker inserted the blank page 28 ready for Ch2 to start (correctly > numbered on page 29). Using the solution above does get rid of the blank > page BUT the first page of Ch2 is still numbered 29 AND it actually comes > out of the printer as an even page on the back of 27. What's more - it > retains its right-hand format, even though it prints left hand, and so the > page numbers which were on the outside of the double sided pages are now on > the inside in the gutter! > I found a way to force Ch2 to start on the left rather than right but it > still retained right-hand formatting so put the page numbers in the gutter > again. > Unfortunately, the conditional text within the document varies, so that Ch1 > might have an even number of pages for one variant, and an odd number for > another. So rather than have to try and force Ch2 for each individual > variant isn't appealing. Especially since I have another 5 short chapters to > put into teh manual - any of which could have an odd or even number of pages > according to the variant's effect on conditional text. > > Right now I'm finishing for Friday afternoon - thanks for your suggestions > today - I'll pick it up again on Monday Morning. > > Regards to all > > David > --- ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **