Re: Get FM stop to asking to save unchanged file

["Becky Swanson" <becky@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Good advice, Richard.

It is important to note that FrameMaker registers ANY change to the document
(changing zoom, turning on/off text symbols or borders, etc.) as a "change" to
the document, so you'll get the do-you-want-to-save message. If you haven't made
any *content* changes, then you don't need to save. If you don't want to see the
message, don't change any zoom or view settings while you're in the document.
Unlike some other programs that open the document to the default zoom and view,
FM "remembers" the settings you last used, so they are a "change" to the
document when you change them.

Fred, you might look at using the "document info" feature to track the real
change dates.

Best regards,
Becky Swanson
Benchmark Publications Group, Inc.
www.benchmarkpubs.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Melanson" <richard.melanson.rm@us.agfa.com>
To: "David Schor" <Davids@vcon.co.il>
Cc: "'Fred Ma'" <fma@doe.carleton.ca>; <framers@omsys.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: Get FM stop to asking to save unchanged file



When I open either a Frame file or a Frame book, I am not asked by Frame to
save either unless I make some sort of change. And I have not made any
changes to my Frame installation to suppress  updating as suggested below.
I think that some type of change is being introduced into your documents as
soon as you open them, maybe missing fonts, that Frame is picking up. I
would suggest that you attempt to ascertain what is happening before you
make changes to your Framemaker installation and configuration. Just my two
pennies, good luck.

Richard A. Melanson
Technical Writer, AGFA Corp.
(978) 658-0200 x5364
richard.melanson.rm@us.agfa.com




                    David Schor
                    <Davids@vcon.        To:     "'Fred Ma'"
<fma@doe.carleton.ca>
                    co.il>               cc:     framers@omsys.com, (bcc:
Richard Melanson/EXJOM/WIL/AGFA/US/BAYER)
                                         Subject:     RE: Get FM stop to asking
to save unchanged file
                    06/11/2003
                    09:14 AM






I asked this very question last September. The response was taken from the
archives - Lester C. Smalley (Archives; Sat, 21 Apr 2001).

To disable this behaviour, enable Suppress Automatic Updating for either
individual files or throughout a book.

In individual files, Edit>Update References>Commands>Suppress Automatic
Updating.

In books, Edit>Suppress Automatic Reference Updating.

Doing this is problematic in individual files because you have to remember
to update your files one-by-one.
If you do it book-wide, updating is more manageable because one update
operation takes care of all files in the book.

HTH,
David

David Schor
Technical Publications Manager
VCON Ltd.
Tel: (+972) 9 959 0006
Mobile: 054 788 253
davids@vcon.co.il

"1 CLICK AWAY From Being There" - http://www.vcon.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Ma [mailto:fma@doe.carleton.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:56 PM
Cc: framers@omsys.com
Subject: Get FM stop to asking to save unchanged file
Hi,

Is there a way to get FM to not ask to save
a file on exitting, if the file has not been
changed?  It is the only app to do this, so
I usually pause and say "Wait a minute...did
I change something?  I don't want to lose it."
Most of the time, it's just not worth the
trouble to save it under a different name and
compare documents with the original.  Instead,
I just say "yes" to save the file.  But this
changes the time stamp.  I rely on the time
stamp as a sanity check to see which copies I
have on different machines is the most recent
(I archive my files and transfer them from
machine to machine depending on my location).
So by saving a few minutes by saying "yes" to
saving the file, I waste quite a few *more*
minutes scratching my head and figuring out
the most recent file, without trusting the
time stamps.  Been going on for years.

Fred

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