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To: Bill Briggs <web@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Office 2003 Beta
From: Mark Barratt <markb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:44:44 +0000
CC: DW Emory <danemory@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Moritz Berger <m.oritz_b.erger@xxxxxxxxxxx>, framers@xxxxxxxxx, FrameSGML List <FrameSGML@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Bill Briggs wrote: > At 1:52 PM -0800 22/03/03, DW Emory wrote: > >> If you want to have it all and you accept the Microsoft approach, >> you're stuck with Microsoft stinking Word and specific types of >> Windoze platforms. If that isn't an overt attempt to preempt/hijack an >> emerging universal standard, what is it? > > > I fail to see how this even warrants a debate. Internal MS documents > that have been available on the web for years clearly spell out the > strategy that MS has taken. (Start here to discover their intentions > <http://www.opensource.org/halloween/halloween1.php>) > > The "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" approach is not only spelled out in > those documents, it's evident in their practice of recent years. They > desire control over the protocol space, the standards space, and > anything else they can control. These are not some kind of fantasy Dan > has concoted in the haze of watching too much reality TV. They are real. I agree. The Outlook-centric, .NET-based future is scary. But it doesn't help anyone to get facts wrong. It isn't the XML support in Word that is a problem - in the terms of this discussion so far, Word is standards-compliant. The restrictive technology, as I understand it, is in the server and the InfoPath client. Even InfoPath is 'standards-conformant' in that it uses W3C schemas, UDDI, SOAP and WSDL. Mark Barratt ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **