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Subject: RE: OT:RE: FrameMaker Gets a Boost (news item in India Times, Nov. 24 )
From: walter.crockett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 17:07:31 -0500
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
>In today's global economy a multi-national corporation like Adobe has no >obligation whatsoever to give preference to US citizens, whether they be >stockholders, customers, or employees. Let us amend your comment a bit and say that in today's global economy a multi-national corporation has no obligations whatsoever. Period. That doesn't make it right. Doesn't make it moral. Doesn't make it patriotic. The fact that corporations are what they are is not an argument that they are what they should be. And to those who wrote that if we don't like it we can just move to India and get a job there, I would reply that I'd prefer to stay here and fight for economic justice, not just for people in the United States, but for people the world over. In the face of the shameless excesses of corporate management in recent years, and the incredible rise in the gap between the richest and the poorest (right here in the USA, let alone around the world) I really don't see why people continue to pretend the system hasn't run off the track. Without a doubt, all the jobs moving to India today would move to North Korea tomorrow if they could get the labor cheaper. And you can ask the Nike workers abroad just how much of the good life they're enjoying today. This rant, by the way, comes not from a socialist, but from an old line New Deal Democrat, which just goes to show how far to the right the common wisdom on economics has moved in recent years. Walter Crockett -----Original Message----- From: Dan Emory [mailto:danemory@primenet.com] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:53 PM To: framers@omsys.com Subject: Re: OT:RE: FrameMaker Gets a Boost (news item in India Times, Nov. 24 ) In today's global economy a multi-national corporation like Adobe has no obligation whatsoever to give preference to US citizens, whether they be stockholders, customers, or employees. We have all been complaining that the releases after FM 5.1 have not produced substantive improvements in the product. Certainly the main reason for this slowdown in product improvement is the cost of making major changes to code that is more than 10 years old. All Adobe is doing is trying to do is get the most bang for its software development buck, and if India is the place where that can be achieved, then so be it. That's not corporate greed, it's just common sense. It might even mean that Adobe has decided that doing the work in India makes it possible to rework the core code in FrameMaker, so as to give us, for instance, true Unicode support. FrameMaker has been ready for a major revamp for at least 5 years. If the next major release doesn't deliver such a revamp, then a couple of years down the road FrameMaker will be discontinued, and we'll be left with no alternative but Office 11. At 02:30 PM 11/25/02 -0500, walter.crockett@ascentialsoftware.com wrote: >If I were an Adobe stockholder, I don't believe I'd let my greed get the >better of my concern for the shape of the computer industry in America. >Letting greed getting the better or principle is what's wrong with corporate >America in the first place. > >If, in fact, Adobe was hiring these 50 programmers in India at the same >wages as here, than I wouldn't care as much. Instead, quite obviously, they >are looking to get the labor as cheaply as they can. This trend affects >computer professionals everywhere, not just in America. > >Where did we get the impression that there was something divinely inspired >in the logic of corporate and stockholder greed? > >Walter Crockett ==================== | Nullius in Verba | ==================== Dan Emory, Dan Emory & Associates FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing Voice/Fax: 949-722-8971 E-Mail: danemory@primenet.com 177 Riverside Ave., STE F, #1151, Newport Beach, CA 92663 ---Subscribe to the "Free Framers" list by sending a message to majordomo@omsys.com with "subscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. ** ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **