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Subject: Re: CMYK or RGB? Macintosh or Windows? How's a poor guy to upgrade?
From: Dov Isaacs <isaacs@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:13:15 -0700
Cc: framers@xxxxxxxxx, framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Rick Quatro" <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
In-Reply-To: <LISTMANAGER-25396-12942-2002.10.17-18.33.41--isaacs#adobe.com@lists.FrameUsers.com>
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Hedley, Disclaimers: The following is not an official Adobe recommendation or communication! I have and use both Macintosh and Windows-based systems and own no securities in either Apple or Microsoft! Ten years ago, the answer to your question would have been a total no-brainer; the Macintosh would be the ONLY way to go. Five years ago, perhaps I could give a nod to the Macintosh primarily on the basis of generally but not always being "more stable" (i.e., not requiring reboots "n" times per day) and being less of a pain-in-the-butt to configure and maintain. Today, Apple's advertisements notwithstanding, I would personally recommend Windows for a variety of reasons: (1) MacOS X is "a work in progress" that will require a number of additional dot and dot-dot releases before major issues including font support, PDF support, printing in general, software installation, and system administration are really nailed down. There is tremendous potential in MacOS X, but even the experts and Mac aficionados are still learning how to really work with it and integrate it into their workflows. (2) In the case of Windows, I would only recommend Windows 2000 (any flavour) or Windows XP Professional (not the dumbed-down "home" variety). Basically, Windows XP Professional is Windows 2000 Professional with "an attitude" and an "improved" (that is quite subjective) user interface. Both are exceptionally stable and fully support Type 1 fonts, TrueType fonts, and OpenType fonts without any requirement for ATM unless you need support for Multiple Master fonts in a few Adobe applications (FrameMaker and PageMaker) or any non-Adobe applications. Windows'9x, Me, and NT 4 are not worthy of your consideration. (3) The PostScript drivers for Windows 2000 and XP (actually the exact same driver as of Windows 2000 SP3 and Windows XP SP1) are by far the most reliable and least problematic. (4) I must most vehemently disagree with Rich Quatro's assertion that "Mac is still a superior graphics platform, especially with InDesign/ Illustrator/Photoshop family." In fact, except for FrameMaker, all Windows versions of Adobe applications have full feature parity with the Macintosh versions and in some cases exceed the functionality of the Macintosh versions (especially with regards to Acrobat). In terms of performance, Adobe applications run every bit as well under Windows as on the Mac and in some non-compute operations, especially when dealing with font enumeration, file operations, and printing, performance under Windows can dramatically outshine that on the Macintosh. (Try 1400 active typefaces on a Macintosh!) Perhaps Quark XPress runs better on the Mac! (5) The RGB-CMYK problem is strictly a FrameMaker issue. All other Adobe applications generate their own PostScript (and PDF) and allow you to use whatever colorspace you want or need. By the way, on the Mac, most non-graphics-oriented applications such as Microsoft Office applications are fully RGB, not CMYK. This issue is really a red (not 100%Y+100%M) herring. (6) Personally, I have had no problems going to press (monochrome or four color) with publications authored and published using Adobe software under Windows as long as I didn't tell the printing company where the files came from. And even that is changing dramatically now! - Dov At 10/17/2002 05:33 PM, hedley_finger@myob.com.au wrote: >Keyboard tappers: > >My daughter's partner intends to leave the hospitality industry and change >career to desktop publishing and multimedia. He intends to buy a new >computer for his studies and therein lies the problem: Macintosh or >Windows? From being in full employment with a steady income, he is about >to become an impoverished student, so needs to spend his savings wisely on >computer hardware. > >Macintosh does CMYK and Windows does RGB, so the unthinking decision would >be to simply go for Macintosh. Yet Macintosh hardware comparable to >similar Windows hardware is so much more expensive (remember, we are on a >budget here). > >So is anybody out there using the full panoply of Adobe graphic arts >products (InDesign, PageMaker, Photoshop, Illustrator) to produce >publications for PRINT on Windows, with high-quality, fully separable CMYK >PDFs or camera art? Is this possible? Is this desirable? Are the >algorithms for converting Windows RGB to the CMYK for print sufficiently >acceptable? Which hardware should this man buy? > >I look forward to advice from the four-colour printing experts. >Unfortunately, most of my work is B&W or two-colour, so I have no >experience in this field. By the way, I am no platform fanatic: at home I >have an elderly PowerMac 7300/200, at work a Gateway Windows PC, and have >used probably twenty different operating systems in the last 20 years. > >[Windows 2000, FrameMaker 6.0p405, FrameScript 1.27C01, Enhance 2.03, >Acrobat 4.05.2, mif2go 31u33, WebWorks Publisher 7.0, IXgen 5.5.h, HTML >Help Workshop 4.74 build 8702.0, HTML Help 1.31] > >Regards, >Hedley > >-- >Hedley Finger >Adobe Certified Expert, FrameMaker 5.5.x >Technical Communications/Best Practice Mentor >MYOB Australia Pty Ltd <http://www.myob.com.au> >P.O. box 371 Blackburn VIC 3130 Australia >12 Wesley Court Tally Ho Business Park East Burwood 3151 Australia >Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421 Fax. +61 3 9222 9880 Mob. +61 412 461 558 ><mailto:hedley_finger@myob.com.au> ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **