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To: "Richard Combs" <richard.combs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: The Facts (WAS: Distiller Trivia (WAS RE: Frame 6 files only distilling in Black and White - help!))
From: Dov Isaacs <isaacs@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:13:40 -0800
Cc: framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Framers List), <framers@xxxxxxxxx>
In-Reply-To: <LISTMANAGER-25396-14416-2002.03.20-16.49.03--isaacs#adobe.com@lists.raycomm.com>
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
For the record: (1) The installers for Acrobat 5.0.5 do indeed install a Distiller printer instance built from the correct PPD. Install the Distiller, you get the latest PostScript driver, the PPD, printer instance, and all the plumbing setup automatically to do direct-to-PDF-port printing. This is true on both Windows and the Macintosh. (2) With Acrobat 5.0.5, the driver plugins that provide the full plumbing for the special printer instances only really work with the Acrobat Distiller PPD, although conceivably, one could do some registry hacking etc. to get around that. (3) The next major release of FrameMaker in fact is going to do just what you suggest. It will only work with the official Acrobat Distiller printer instance, whether on Windows or Macintosh. I am actually in the process of testing this for Adobe's FrameMaker development group and its looking very good! This already occurs with PageMaker 7. (4) For better or worse, Acrobat does allow the user to screw themselves over as much as they want. For historical purposes, the Distiller does allow users to use "watched folders" to distill or "open" any arbitrary PostScript file. Historically, i.e., prior to the days of the GUI-based OS, and still with some applications, PostScript was pretty output in a fairly device-independent manner by applications. We need to continue to support such applications and specialized workflows via a generalized ability to distill arbitrary (and hopefully not capricious) PostScript files. The user is free of course, not to use either of these features. In fact, the only time I explicitly open a file with the Distiller is when I need to debug a PostScript file, typically from some errant application or driver. For production work, I always use the direct approaches of the automatic printer instance associated with the Distiller PPD. (5) Richard comments on what "Acrobat" should do. However, Acrobat is not in control of the workflow to initiate creation of the PDF file. The metaphor in use, for better or worse, is that the user either "saves", "exports", or "prints" to create PDF from the application program. It is those processes that invoke Acrobat, not vice versa. On the other hand, we are trying to incorporate features such as the new "save as PDF" in the next FrameMaker as well as in PageMaker 7, Export PDF in InDesign, PDFMaker in Microsoft Office, and other features in future versions of Acrobat to dummy-proof the process of PDF creation as much as possible. Surprisingly enough, if you read the postings on this list and others, it is amazing what type of contortions some end-users will go through to create PostScript and subsequently distill same via some magical voodoo based upon oral tradition, urban legends, myths, and "bubbameissers" passed on by fellow end-users. - Dov At 3/20/2002 03:48 PM, Richard Combs wrote: >Adam Korman [mailto:Adam@cooper.com] wrote: ><snip> If you use device-dependent input >> (Postscript made with your printer driver), you will get device-dependent >> output. The instructions from Adobe are clear and unequivocal: to create >> device-independent PDFs, use the Distiller driver. There is nothing to be >> gained by using your printer driver. >> >> Of course, that begs the question -- if this is the case, why allow it at >> all? I'm guessing that it's just an implementation hack rather than of any >> real benefit to users. > >Amen! Instead of Dov and others endlessly repeating the same instructions for how to install Acrobat and create PDFs, Acrobat should (without any prompting of or decisions by the user): > >(1) Install a Distiller printer instance built from the correct PPD. It shouldn't even be _possible_ to create a Distiller printer instance with anything else. > >(2) Use that printer instance whenever (and however) you choose PDF output. (This would fix the problematic "Save as PDF" function in FM.) > >When you want to create a PDF, the only thing you should _have_ to decide is the file name. > >Why should you have to be taught the right way to do it when the software can simply do it the right way for you? There's nothing to be gained by giving people a choice they should never use, is there? > >Richard ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **