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To: "'Michael Cudmore'" <mcudmore@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Dan Emory <danemory@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: PDF File Size using FM6 and Acrobat 3.05
From: "Ridder, Fred" <Fred.Ridder@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:18:51 -0500
Cc: The Other Framers <framers@xxxxxxxxx>
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
For a succinct statement on this issue, see: http://www.theslot.com/decrease.html I seem to recall that there used to be a lengthier explanation in the style guide section of this website, which is written by Bill Walsh, a 20-year veteran newspaper copy editor who is currently the Copy Chief of the Business Desk at the Washington Post. But Walsh's contract with the publisher of his book, "Lapsing into a Comma", limits the amount of overlap between the book and the website, and most of the old style guide entries have been taken down. I guess I'll have to buy the book, which is subtitled "A Curmudgeon's Guide to the Many Things That Can Go Wrong in Print--and How to Avoid Them." My opinions only; I don't speak for Dialogic or Intel... Fred Ridder (Fred.Ridder@Dialogic.com) Senior Publishing System Analyst Dialogic, an Intel company Parsippany, NJ -----Original Message----- From: Michael Cudmore [mailto:mcudmore@neap.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 6:21 PM To: Dan Emory Cc: The Other Framers Subject: Re: PDF File Size using FM6 and Acrobat 3.05 Dan Emory wrote: > So, in cases where you're calculating a percentage difference > between two numbers, neither of which is "the whole," it > seems more fitting to define the ratio as follows: > > Let A and B be two numbers, where A is the larger number, thus: > > P = (A - B)/B x 100 > Whether or not the percentage relates part and whole is not the issue. When you calculate a percentage, in general you are taking a fraction of a value over a base value and multiplying by 100. The two numbers may not be related as part and whole, or old and new. In this general case, you might talk of the Australian population being 8% of the size of the US population; in other words, you explicitly refer to the base value. When the percentage is a percentage change or difference (e.g. part compared to whole or new compared to old), you need to compare the difference (new minus old or part minus whole) with the base value (old or whole) before multiplying by 100. But when talking about percentage changes, the base value is left implicit; you simply refer to the percentage change in file size, rather than the change in file size as a percentage of the old file size. You do not need to state the base because there is only one sensible value to take as the base. In particular, the base is not chosen on the basis of which number A or B is larger. The percentage change between old and new is ALWAYS (new - old)/old * 100 This formula applies whether you are talking about whole and part, old and new, etc. In your PDF case, (300 - 1200)/1200 * 100 = -75%. The negative sign indicates, as it always does if this formula is used correctly, that the change is a reduction. I don't really understand why I need to go through this. It's not April fools' day is it? The new value is a quarter of the original value, so it must have been reduced by three quarters, or 75%, of the original. There is simply no other sensible way to express percentages. Sheesh, if folks go around saying it is OK to redefine percentages, it is no wonder percentages and probabilities can be confusing to otherwise intelligent people. To finish, a mathematician's urban myth: In the 1970s, the Mexican roads department decided to repaint the lanes on a 4 lane highway to give 6 narrower lanes. It then claimed to have increased lanes by 50%. After accident rates soared, it went back to the original 4 lanes and reasoned that following a 50% increase and a 33.3% reduction, it had still managed to increase the number of lanes by 16.7%. cheers -- Michael Cudmore Project Development Manager National Educational Advancement Programs (NEAP) Pty Ltd 58 Pelham St Carlton Vic 3053 AUSTRALIA Tel: +61 3 9663 2523 Fax: +61 3 9663 7182 e-mail: (work) mcudmore@neap.com.au (pers) mcudmore@email.com ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. ** ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **