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To: framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, framers@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: set up conditional cross-reference?
From: hedley_finger@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:12:19 +1000
Cc: lee@xxxxxxxxx
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
David O'Brien asked ... > The target of a cross reference appears on the same page as the source, so a > cross ref like "See topic A on page 1" is a bit odd when you're already on > page 1; it would be more sensible to write "... below" or "... above", etc. > However, if the doc is edited the source and target may no longer appear on > the same page, so page refs are sensible. In the pdf just a link is fine > but we need to allow for printed doc as well. Quite a while ago I suggested that the tag for a cross-reference should be associated with one required and five optional cross-reference formats, allowing one to meet David's requirements, for example: XREF TAG: Heading ALTERNATIVE FORMAT Default: `<$paratext>' on page\ <$pagenum> Same Page Above: `<$paratext>' above Same Page Below: `<$paratext>' below On Same Double Spread: `<$paratext>' opposite On Left After Spread: `<$paratext>' overleaf On Right Before Spread: `<$paratext>' preceding FrameMaker would automagically determine which form to use. The Default format would be required and would always be used if none of the others were specified. Watch for it in release 11.0! Regards, Hedley -- Hedley Finger Technical Communications/Technical communicator and FrameMaker mentor MYOB Australia P.O. box 371 Blackburn VIC 3130 Australia <mailto:hedley_finger@myob.com.au> Tel. +61 3 9894 0945 Mob. +61 412 461 558 "Stuart Burnfield" To: framers@FrameUsers.com <stuartb@tpg. cc: com.au> Subject: RE: set up conditional cross-reference? 02/11/2000 01:33 PM Please respond to "Stuart Burnfield" I worked on a book that had cross-refs in the form "See _Foobar_ next" or "See step 3 in Foobar_ next" where the target was the first topic after the reference. This seemed to work fairly well, as it makes sense whether the next topic is on the same page or happens to get bumped to the next page. It's not so good in a single-source setup, because you want to avoid positional references like 'next', 'above', 'below'. --- Stuart Burnfield Gentoo Communications mailto:stuartb@tpg.com.au -----Original Message----- From: David O'Brien [mailto:obriend@mincom.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 8:11 AM To: framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: set up conditional cross-reference? Can anyone tell me how to do this: The target of a cross reference appears on the same page as the source, so a cross ref like "See topic A on page 1" is a bit odd when you're already on page 1; it would be more sensible to write "... below" or "... above", etc. However, if the doc is edited the source and target may no longer appear on the same page, so page refs are sensible. In the pdf just a link is fine but we need to allow for printed doc as well. Can I create a conditional x-ref? eg If targetPage == sourcePage if targetLine < sourceLine then pageRef = "above" else pageRef = "below" else pageRef = pageNum or something. thanks David David O'Brien mailto:david.obrien@mincom.com Mincom Limited Phone: 617 3303 3502 Brisbane, Australia. Fax: 617 3303 3257 How do I set a laser printer to stun? This transmission is for the intended addressee only and is confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it and notify the sender. The contents of this E-mail are the opinion of the writer only and are not endorsed by Mincom Limited unless expressly stated otherwise. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Register for the 2000 FrameUsers Conference in San Diego, 1-3 November, 2000 http://www.FrameUsers.com/conference/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- ========= Personal List Subscription Information ========= You are currently subscribed to framers as: stuartb@tpg.com.au To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-framers-52045U@lists.frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listadmin@FrameUsers.com. Visit the FrameUsers website: http://www.FrameUsers.com ========================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- Register for the 2000 FrameUsers Conference in San Diego, 1-3 November, 2000 http://www.FrameUsers.com/conference/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- ========= Personal List Subscription Information ========= You are currently subscribed to framers as: hedley_finger@myob.com.au To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-framers-52045U@lists.frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listadmin@FrameUsers.com. Visit the FrameUsers website: http://www.FrameUsers.com ========================================================== ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **