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To: christina.gideon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re : Tabloid Style? (About document imposition)
From: "Despot" <despot@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 19:09:20 +0200
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
> For printing purposes, I need to reposition the pages of my company's > newsletter. I want the first page to face the last page, the second page > to face the next to last page, and so on. I believe the style I'm trying > to achieve is called Tabloid Style. Can anyone help me? > > thanks! > Christina > Christina Gideon > Information Developer, Comtech Services, Inc. > 303/232-9486 ext. 123 > christina.gideon@comtech-serv.com Deborah Snavely replied : > A utility software program called ClickBooks used to exist for Windows & Mac > (the Windows version had free download trial version) that was affordable. I > never used it, but it was supposed to take your PS output and arrange pages > as you wanted. It's still around but the site I found it on was pitched to > churches and talked mostly about MS Word output. > (http://www.bluesquirrel.com/clickbook/index.html?) > We have tried using ClickBook for Mac. It helps with simple text-processor or database pages, but generates errors with styled text (smallcaps and bullets appear compressed, etc.). For elementary use only. There is a professional-level workaround to avoid buying expensive imposition software. We actually use it to impose newsletters and catalogues for our Risograph (a sort of serigraphic A3 printer with a drum, silk paper plates, and offset printing ink instead of toner), but it may also be used for complex book imposition. You need : 1. your original, unimposed Source doc in a pdf version ; 2. an Imposition doc created with a page layout program that is able to import separate pages from a pdf document. Adobe's InDesign 1.5 has the best pdf handling we know. Let's say your Newsletter has 8 A4 pages (I am used to european sizes, sorry). You distill it to Newsletter.pdf, an 8-page, A4 Portrait, Acrobat document. This is the Source file. Now for the Imposition file. Let's say your printer's maximum output size is A3. You create an A3 Landscape template with InDesign, containing 4 pages (for example : "A4>A3/8p.id"). Each of these will show two A4 pages imported from the source document (Newsletter.pdf), in the following order : A: 1-8, B: 3-6, C: 2-7, D :4-5. In the final output, your C page will print on the back of your A page, and D is on the back of B. The sorting will change with different paginations, but the principle remains. Remember that your original page numbering must be a multiple of 4 -- insert full page ads or standard info to match the count. If you import your pdf pages by linking and not embedding, this template will serve for any subsequent document of the same size and pagination you have to print, provided that you rename your new file "Newsletter.pdf" and replace the older file in its directory. If the link updating is set to "auto" in the page layout program, the process is entirely automated. The new newsletter will be imposed at the very opening of the "A4>A3/8p" target document ! We have an "Imposition" directory with different templates (A5>A3/32p, A6>A4/4p, etc.) pointing to a single "Source.pdf" file, whose contents, size, and/or page count changes each time. For color separations, "Source.pdf" is sequentially replaced by the different color versions of the same document. The whole thing is now a matter of pdf renaming and replacing. This is a free and accurate imposition system based on the collateral use of popular DTP software. The ache is that it takes some time to set up, but it is largely paid back by the time saving it provides in all-day use. Not every firm has the needs and means to send its stuff to a high-tech offset workflow. N.B. All this should also work with FrameMaker, but our current version (5.5.3) does not support pdf importing. We are upgrading to 6.0 these days, and we'll try to to shift to FM for these tasks. I can send a report to interested Framers within a few weeks. As this "Do it yourself" idea has proved useful to some people around us, I thought it was also worth posting on the list. Slobodan Despot <despot@bluewin.ch> Executive Director _____________________________________ E D I T I O N S L'A G E D'H O M M E (F) 5, rue Ferou 75006 Paris T 01 55 42 79 79 F 01 40 51 71 02 lagedhomme@aol.com (CH) Rue de Geneve 10, CP 32 1000 Lausanne 9 T 021 312 00 95 F 021 320 84 40 agedhomme@iprolink.ch (YU) Knez Mihailova 40 11000 Belgrade T/F 011 186 247 _____________________________________ ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **