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To: "Jerilynne Sander" <jsander@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Framers List" <Framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "New Framers" <framers@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Disappointment at attitude
From: Dan Emory <danemory@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 07:47:48 -0700 (MST)
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
At 07:56 AM 3/5/00 -0500, Jerilynne Sander wrote: >Dear Friends > >I've been a newbie, I've screwed up stuff, I've apologized for making errors >to this list. I've been reading with increasing dismay the way we should >handle "newbie" questions. > >I routinely send my students here for a taste of the Framers community. And >yes, they are bound to ask questions that have been asked before. They are >bound to sound stupid, just like I'm sure I did when I first started using >Frame (and probably *still* do at times). > >As a technical communicator, I also realize that the majority of people >would rather be given an answer--most archives are just too darned difficult >to wade through. As are most of the FAQs I've seen. ====================================================================== Perhaps you should have taught your students how to use a FAQ and to RTFM before they send the equivalent of junk mail to several thousand people. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >If we're going to add a bizillion rules to how posts are made, where are >newbies to go? How are they to learn? ==================================================================== No one is suggesting anything more than offering newbies a start-up kit and asking them to use it. At the most, I've suggested that people who make posts requesting help on topics that are fully covered by a FAQ that is in their hands be warned by the list administrator. For an analogy, think of a live seminar with several thousand well-mannered people listening to presentations. After each presentation, the meeting is opened up for questions from the floor. Now, suppose one person keeps getting up and asking questions that were answered fully during the presentations. You'd hear shouts of Sit Down!, Pay Attention you jerk!, and You're wasting our time! That's how some of us feel when we see the same question asked two or three times within a single week. No one's suggesting rigid rules for the list, but we are asking people who need help to use a little self-discipline, and to avail themselves of the resources provided them in a start-up kit before sending mail to several thousand people. ==================== | Nullius in Verba | ==================== Dan Emory, Dan Emory & Associates FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing Voice/Fax: 949-722-8971 E-Mail: danemory@primenet.com 10044 Adams Ave. #208, Huntington Beach, CA 92646 ---Subscribe to the "Free Framers" list by sending a message to majordomo@omsys.com with "subscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **