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To: FrameUsers List <Framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Frame List <Framers@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Proprietary Templates?
From: Jay Smith <jay@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 14:04:41 -0500
Organization: Jay Smith and Associates
References: <s87093ea.079@mspeos0.corp.medtronic.COM>
Sender: owner-framers@xxxxxxxxx
Craig Ede wrote: > <SNIP> > I'd search the mif for anything resembling such a copyright and > respect it if you find it. <SNIP> *** THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE *** SEE YOUR OWN ADVISOR *** I certainly agree with Craig, however, I must go one step farther. "Copyright" occurs automatically as part of the act of creation. One does not have to "do" anything to cause a "work" to be copyrighted. Simply creating the "work" copyrights it. However, to properly and fully NOTIFY others and to DEFEND a copyright, it is important to make use of all appropriate and reasonable copyright statements -- check with your intellectual property attorney. (For example, for the benefit of protection in some South American countries you need "All Rights Reserved", etc.) I believe that the real issue here was well stated (or at least strongly implied) by the original poster. As I see it: The result of the act of creation is owned by the creator until such time as the creator chooses to grant rights to others to use or modify that creation. PERIOD. In this Internet age with its "borrow"-somebody's-graphic-from-their-web-site mentality, we must all remember that if we expect others to respect our creations, we must respect theirs. I follow this creed myself to the best of my ability. Unfortunately, the reality of "modern corporate life" makes "doing the right thing" maddeningly difficult. If you ask for permission to use somebody's template, for example, you are likely to get a defensive "no". Nobody in today's corporations has AUTHORITY to do anything. So they ask the corporate lawyers. Lawyers always say no -- that is their job. Thus what two reasonable people would see as a completely reasonable situation becomes "no". As far as practicality is concerned, if one were to remove all references to a creator (by going through the MIF), there MIGHT be little way for somebody to know -- after all, there are only so many ways to do things. HOWEVER, let me point out that there is more in the MIF than you may realize. For example, my company creates some of its own fonts. When Table Formats are created with one of those fonts, even if no tables are later in by a document or template, the NAME of the font is in the MIF -- and in my case, the name of that font would clearly not be something that should be on anybody else's computer systems. Jay -- Jay Smith e-mail: Jay@JaySmith.com Jay Smith & Associates P.O. Box 650 Snow Camp, NC 27349 USA Phone: Int+US+336-376-9991 Toll-Free Phone in US & Canada: 1-800-447-8267 Fax: Int+US+336-376-6750 ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@omsys.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **