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To: "Jeremy H. Griffith" <jeremy@xxxxxxxxx>, Austin Meredith <Kouroo@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Frame crashes on load
From: Dov Isaacs <isaacs@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 11:57:50 -0700
Cc: framers@xxxxxxxxx, framers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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At 7/24/2004 01:20 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: >On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:03:19 -0700, Dov Isaacs <isaacs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>There is NOTHING in FrameMaker that is specific to or relies upon >>components of Windows XP Professional as opposed to Windows XP Home. > >Heh heh. Performance got worse and worse, for everything, and I >finally threw up my hands and did a clean install of Win2K Pro. >After getting some drivers off the HP site (using a Mac ;-), I had >a working system again. Frame runs fine now... > > From this ghastly struggle, I find the caveat "Don't use XP Home" >*real* convincing. Everything else is the same: hardware, other >apps, network connections. Just the OS is different. Draw your >own conclusions. > >-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. > <jeremy@xxxxxxxxx> http://www.omsys.com/ At 7/24/2004 05:10 PM, Austin Meredith wrote: >Where do we stand now, in regard to WinXP with the latest service pack upgrades? --Is Win2K still the gold standard, for those who rely on FM? At 7/24/2004 06:05 PM, Art Campbell wrote: >I don't think it's been the gold standard since XP Pro shipped. ;- ) >XP is quicker, more stable, and includes better tools.... > >Cheers, >Art To expand on my earlier response, there is NOTHING is FrameMaker that is specific to or relies on components of Windows 2000 (Professional or any of the server versions), Windows XP (either Home or Professional), or Windows Server 2003 (any of the versions). FrameMaker 6 (updated with the downloads available at <http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1002> and <http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1420>), FrameMaker 7 (updated with the downloads available at <http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1933>, <http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1949>, and <http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=2111>), and FrameMaker 7.1 should run on any of these Windows versions without any difference in functionality or performance. The only caveat is that this assumes that you have a fully and properly configured operating system including device drivers appropriate to your particular hardware configuration and the Windows version in use. (In this discussion, "device drivers" refers to more than the obvious printer, scanner, and video drivers, but also to various interface drivers for system busses and i/o channels. This becomes especially critical for "low end" systems that have all sorts of features "integrated" onto the motherboard in a proprietary manner not directly supported by Windows, but only by the motherboard provider's "private" drivers, usually not supported beyond the operating system version current at the time of motherboard shipment.) One significant source of serious Windows XP problems relates to attempts to "upgrade" from Windows'9x/Me or even Windows 2000 to Windows XP. Our experience at Adobe and that of many of our customers is that the any attempts to "upgrade in place" either doesn't yield a usable system or yields a system with various problems including missing functionality, instability, and/or performance problems. The only "upgrade" approach that is fairly reliable is to install Windows XP on a new, clean disk partition and reinstall all system assets including fonts, drivers, profiles, and application programs. And this assumes, of course, that there are indeed Windows XP- compatible drivers for all your "legacy" devices. Sometimes Windows 2000 drivers work without a hitch; sometimes they fail spectacularly! My personal advice is that if you have a full and properly functioning computer system running any Windows 2000 version, updated with all four service packs and all subsequent critical and recommended updates from Microsoft, then leave well enough alone. There are very few current Windows applications that REQUIRE Windows XP, but do not run on Windows 2000. If you have a tyrannical IS group that MANDATES Windows XP, make sure that you do the "clean install" outlined above and that you indeed have Windows XP-compatible drivers. If you are currently running Windows'9x/Me, migrating to Windows XP makes an awful lot of sense IF you have enough computing resource to support the resource thresholds of Windows XP. If your system is old enough to be running Windows'9x/Me, you likely (but not necessarily) have a system that is at least three or four years old; it may in fact be more cost-effective to simply replace the system than attempt to upgrade old hardware to meet Windows XP's resource requirements. And back to the XP Home versus XP Professional issue, it won't make a bit of difference to FrameMaker unless you store your content on network servers and you print to network printers. Windows XP Home really isn't setup for anything other than total solo usage. - Dov ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **