Re: Cross Refs - why do they change type?

[Peter Gold <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

In working with FM files that originated in Word, I've seen cases where 
opening Special > Cross-References shows the Source Type as Markers instead 
of Paragraphs, even though the x-refs I've inserted or managed are based on 
paragraph sources.

Word's x-refs are treated as markers. Perhaps this confuses the opening 
behavior of the Cross-Reference dialog box, but it doesn't change the 
"type" of cross-references, or affect their behavior.

HTH

Peter Gold

At 09:11 AM 3/8/2004, Thomas Michanek wrote:
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> At 1:00 pm +0000 8/3/04, Jo Watkiss wrote:
> > All cross refs are inserted using 'Paragraph Tags' as the source type.
> > Every now and then I find that I have unresolved cross refs.  For some
> > reason these are now looking for cross ref markers rather than the Para
> > Tags as originally inserted.
>
> From: "Ridder, Fred" <fred.ridder@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Paragraph Tags vs. Cross-Reference Markers is *not* a property
> > of the cross-references. It is strictly a display option in the Cross-
> > Reference dialog.
> > In any event, unresolved cross-references have nothing whatever to
> > do with the display options in the Cross References dialog. The only
> > thing that causes FrameMaker to report an unresolved cross-reference
> > is when FrameMaker cannot find a marker with the appropriate ID
> > number in the target file. Assuming that the correct target file is
> > indeed available, the two most common causes of unresolved cross-
> > references are unintentional deletion of the marker, or applying a
> > text condition to a marker and then hiding that condition.
>
> Just one more thing to note: FM may report unresolved cross-refs
> when you open a file, but a subsequent search doesn't find any!
> This is most often due to the problem that FM needs to (silently)
> open the cross-ref'd file(s) to resolve (check) them. If a file that
> isn't already open cannot be opened in the background without error
> messages (such as unavailable fonts), the cross-ref will be reported
> as unresolved. When the cross-ref'd file later is opened and any
> error messages are confirmed, the previously unresolved cross-refs
> become resolved (since the cross-ref destination now is available).
> This typically happens if you Open All Files in Book.
>
> This isn't Jo's original problem, but is worth noting. A special
> case of the causes Fred mentions, is that copying and pasting
> text containing cross-ref markers (such as headings) may lose the
> marker or replace it with a similar marker that isn't "up to the job"
> of the original marker.
>
> I hope this came through as lucid as it is in my mind :-)

Regards,

Peter Gold
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